Clay-Randolph County AlArchives Military Records.....Compilation Of Research Data On John Kinard Revwar - Pension ************************************************ Copyright. All rights reserved. http://www.usgwarchives.net/copyright.htm http://www.usgwarchives.net/al/alfiles.htm ************************************************ File contributed for use in USGenWeb Archives by: Ed Clark edwclark3@gmail.com September 29, 2011, 1:48 am Compilation Of Research Data On John Kinard Note: Some of the data below overlaps, due to this being a compilation of raw data and that different sources obtained similar data in many cases. However there are some details that are different in some of the different accounts. Kinard, John Alternate spellings: Kinnard, Kennard c. 1755 – 1845 DAR Ancestor Number: A064651 Service: SOUTH CAROLINA Rank: PRIVATE Birth: (CIRCA) 1755 PHILADELPHIA, PHILADELPHIA CO PENNSYLVANIA Death: (POST) 10-25-1844 RANDOLPH CO, ALABAMA [Possibly now Clay County AL] Pension Number: *S13646 Service Source: *S13646 Service Description: 1) CAPTS FULMORE, CROZIER, HOUSEAL Patriot Pensioned: Yes Widow Pensioned: No Children Pensioned: No Heirs Pensioned: No Spouse: (1) Catrine X ~~~~~ John Kinnard (d) S 13646 While residing in Newberry District, he was drafted under Capt. Jacob Fulmore and Col. Francis Marion and was in the battle at Fort Moultrie. Later, he was under a Capt. Coizier and Col. Beard against the Indians. He was in the battle with the Indians at Seneca Fort. Therefore, he served three other tours, but does not state the names of his officers. He was taken prisoner once and held, with others, for days without food and drink. While on leave, he was attacked by James Turner, a Tory, and cut upon the heard in five places and on the left elbow by a sword. He was also in the battle of Stono and was under Capt. William Houseal and Col. Waters from 24 April 1779 to 16 November 1782. (Moved to Ala.) A.A. 4284; X2380 ~~~~~ Time line from Lynwood Jordan: Some of the Revolutionary War (and other) experiences he related were: While on leave after the Fall of Charleston, John Kinard was attacked by James Turner, a Tory, and cut on the head in five places, and on the left elbow by a sword. Turner left him for dead. However, he survived. Turner went to Virginia for a while and when he came back to South Carolina, he became ill and died. He (Kinnard) was taken prisoner by the British one time and was held prisoner for days in an old house without food and water. There were about 40 persons in the house and the British offered to sell a bottle of water for $1.00. John Kinnard bought the bottle of water and as the enemy let the bottle down from the roof, the thirsty men scrambled for it. The bottle broke and no one had any water. Discharged November 16, 1782. He was discharged from service by Colonel Beard. (The discharge papers were lost). He returned to his home in Newberry County on Cannon's Creek. 1782 - 1794-- He lived in Newberry County, South Carolina. According to his testimony, he lived on Cannon's Creek. Mid-1780's-- His son, Martin, was born in 1787. Therefore John’s marriage to Catrine (last name unknown) must have been in the mid-1780's. 1794-- John Kinard and his family moved to Edgefield County, South Carolina. 1802-- John Kinard bought property in Edgefield County, South Carolina 1806-- John Kinard and his wife, Catrine, (both signed with an "X"), sold the land they had bought in 1802 on Cloud Creek in Edgefield County, South Carolina and according to his testimony, moved to Jasper County, Georgia. This deed is signed Apri1 28, 1806. John and Catrine sold 135 acres on Cloud Creek for $135.00 to Lawrence Haer. Witnesses to the deed were: George (G. L.) Long, John (x) Reinhart, and Jeremiah Williams. (There is no 1810 census for Georgia; it burned.) 1809-- Jasper County, Georgia Deed Book #1 pp. 303-305 Indenture between John Kinard and John Kennedy on February 18, 1809, both of Randolph County (present Jasper County), Georgia. Kennedy sold Lot #114 in the 17th District of Baldwin County, Georgia for $200.00. The lot was drawn by Susannah Roe, now Susannah Means, (Samuel Means) contained 101 1/2 acres. Signed by John Kennedy. Witnesses: Patton Wise, Martin Kinard, Echols Dannel. The deed was recorded April 7, 1809. (This is the first property transaction found of John Kinard after he and his family moved to Georgia) 1826 -- Henry County Deeds (Henry County is northwest of Jasper) May 21, 1826 Between John Kinard and Barned Kinard......100 1/2 acres in the 1st District, Lot #211, adjacent to #206......for $200.00. Signed: John (x) Kinard Witnesses: Thomas W. Harris, Moses Cox, J.P. Recorded: July 7, 1826 1833 -- John Kinard was living in Meriwether County, Georgia. In his application for pension, he states that he talked with an attorney about a pension application while living in Meriwether County in 1833. He was told by the attorney that he would have to have two creditable witnesses concerning his military service. (His discharge had been lost). He decided not to make application. 1834 -- Application of John Kinnard for Pension State of Georgia Jasper County October 28, 1834 Honorable John Polhill, Judge John Kinnard......age 79.....Application for Pension under Act 1832 (Excerpts:) Served under Capt. Fulmore and Col. Bean Marched to Charleston Battle of Stono Ferry, General Lincoln, Commanding In Charleston in May 1780 Returned home for a period Expedition against Indians at Fort Seneca under Maj. Somerset Born in Philadelphia Born in the year of Braddock's defeat Living in Dutch Fork when he first entered service Returned to Newberry County after the war; then moved to Edgefield County, South Carolina for 12 years Then moved to Georgia where he has lived for 28 years Now resides in Jasper County Colonel Beard gave him discharge papers but the papers are lost Sworn to October 28, 1834 Signed: John (x) Kinard Affidavits: Nathaniel Goff, A Revolution Pensioner He knew John Kinard in Edgefield County, S.C. Stated it was consensus of all neighbors that John Kinard was a whig in the service of his country. Rev. James Henderson States he believes John Kinard was 79 years old and served in the Revolution Reuben C. S. Horter States he believes John Kinard is 79 years old and served in the Revolution. Judge John Polhill recorded his approval of the application and affidavits. William B. Stokes, Clerk, attested to the original papers. #13646 Invalid John Kinnard Private - Revolutionary War Act June 7th, 1832 Index Vol. 1 Page 248 John Kinnard Georgia Suspended January 24, 1835 Hon. William Schley 1840 -- United States Census John Kinard was living in the home of his son, Barnett, in Randolph County, Alabama. His age is listed as 82. (note difference in age from statement in application). 1841-- Made second application for Pension September 2, 1841 (With advancing years, compare excerpts with 1834) Residing in Newberry County on Cannon's Creek Drafted Served under Capt. Fulmore and Col. Francis Marion Marched to Fort Moultrie Battled against the British Was in the Battle of Charleston Served under Capt. Croder and Col. Beard Marched against the Indians. Served three to six months against the Indians (could not remember officers). Served two other terms but couldn't remember officers Four tours as a drafted militiaman Three tours as a volunteer militiaman Served under Gen. gates and he knew General Greene Taken prisoner and placed in a house with 40 other prisoners Tells of James Turner, a Tory, coming to his home in Newberry and cutting his face five times and his left elbow and leaving him for dead Reason he has not applied before is that Judge in meriwether County told him he would have to have two creditable witnesses. Signed: John (x) Kinard Affidavits: Rev. Jefferson Faulkner States he believes John Kinard is 83 years old and served in the Revolution. John Bean States he has known John Kinard since 1815 and believes he is 83 years old and served in the Revolution. Green B. Robertson States he has known John Kinard since 1817 and he believes he is 83 years old and served in the revolution. Honorable Andrew Burnham recorded that he believes John Kinard served in the Revolution after hearing above affidavits. September 2, 1841 William M. Buchanan, Clerk of Court, attested to the original papers. September 2, 1841 (note: At the bottom was a notation: Direct any communications to John Kinard c/o Rev. Jefferson Faulkner McDonald, Randolph County, Alabama) John Kinnard Alabama Suspended See Letter 13 Nov '41 Letter: McDonald, Randolph County, Alabama This letter was written by Rev. Jefferson Faulkner to: J. L. Edwards, Esq. Commissioner of Pensions Washington, D. C. Letter states: Rev. Faulkner had written to Columbia, South Carolina for record of John Kinnard in Revolution...it seemed that John Kinnard was at the Fall of Charleston and other tours of service, but not as John Kinard remembered them... Traditional testimony bears out the fact that he was in the Revolution... he has scars as he said was inflicted...he is a person who fought and bled in the cause of American Liberty... friends and neighbors think he served at least two years... Signed: Jefferson Faulkner 1842-- January 7, 1842 Certificate of Pension Issued Arrears to September 1841 John Kinnard Alabama Admitted Private 6 mos. $20.00 Capt. Fulmore Col. Marion South Carolina Act of June 1832 (Note: at bottom was: Jefferson Faulkner, McDonald, Alabama) [Note: For a short amount of time the town of Wedowee’s name was changed to “McDonald” and later changed back to "Wedowee".] Letter from Rev. Jefferson Faulkner to the Commissioner of Pensions in Washington: McDonald, Randolph County, Alabama July 15, 1842 Letter was asking for increase in benefits for John Kinard.... stated John Kinard was living on $20.00 pension plus the hand of charity...his mind is impaired...memory very poor...does not remember many things of the past.... but loves to talk about the war.... (Portion of the letter seemed to question the number of tours of service and the number of months of service as provided in the pension and his actual service.... pleads for help for John Kinard). 1844—United States Treasury Comptrollers Office February 2,1844 John Kinnard, Pensioner Roll of Tuscaloosa, Alabama Agency $20.00 per annum October 25, 1844 Letter from Rev. Faulkner to the Commissioner of Pensions in Washington, D. C. including papers reference to pension of John Kinard. Asked to please notify him when acted upon. Signed: Jefferson Faulkner for John Kinnard [Notes on Jefferson Faulkner: Jefferson Faulkner was a Lawyer by prodession. He served as Judge of County or Orphans Court Randolph County AL from Jan 17, 1844 to Aug 18, 1845] Death: Between October 16, 1845 and before September 1846 (His last pension check covered September 1844- September 1845) ------- The family lived in the Newberry District of South Carolina on lands that he owned along the Buffalo, Crim, and Hawlick Creeks (branches of the Saluda River). Michael disposed of all his land holdings before his death at age 85. His will was made in Newberry County, Sept. 28, 1836 and probated Jul 1, 1839. John Kinard, in his application for his Revolutionary War Pension, stated that he was born in Philadelphia, Penn. in 1755. He probably came south with the group from Pennsylvania who settled in the Dutch Fork settlement in Newberry County. By the time of the Revolution, John was living in the Dutch Fork area on Cannon Creek when he was drafted April 14,1779 as a soldier in the Revolutionary War. He served under Captain Jacob Fulmore and Colonel Francis Marion and fought in the Battle of Fort Mouldtrie. He marched to Charleston and was in the Battle of Stono Ferry under Captain William Houseal, Colonel Waters and General Lincoln. In the Battle of Charleston, he was taken prisoner by the British and held in an old house with about 40 persons for days without food or water. The British offered to sell water for $1.00 a bottle. John Kinard bought a bottle. As the enemy let the bottle down from the rooftop, the thirsty men scrambled for the water and broke the bottle. After the Battle of Charleston, John returned to his home in Newberry County, he was attacked by James Turner, a Tory, and left for dead after five cuts on the head and on the left elbow by a sword. Later as a volunteer, John went on an expedition against the Indians and served until his discharge on November 16, 1782 by Col. Beard. He returned home and lived on Cannon Creek until 1794. That year he moved his family to eastern Edgefield, South Carolina and settled on Cloud Creek, a branch of the Saluda River. He remained here 12 years. On April 28, 1806, John and his wife Catherine sold their Edgefield County land and moved to Randolph County, Georgia, now Jasper County. He lived there for 28 years. John moved with his younger son, Barnett, to Henry County, Georgia. He then migrated to Randolph County, Alabama, with Barnett. He died there between 1844 and 1850. Sources: Title: Family History of the Kinards Author: Glenna B. Kinard Publication: Oct 19 1996 Note: Glenna mailed a packet of information, including this printout of her research on the Kinard family. The data below is a compilation by Ed Clark that was compiled from his own personal work and the works of others, including Reverend James Dupree, Lynwood Jordan and Glenna Kinard File at: http://files.usgwarchives.net/al/clay/military/revwar/pensions/compilat221nmt.txt This file has been created by a form at http://www.genrecords.net/alfiles/ File size: 13.9 Kb