John Lyons Study Group Submitted by various family members. ************************************************ Submitted to the LAGenWeb Archives http:/www.usgwarchives.net/la/lafiles.htm ************************************************ Copyright. All rights reserved. http://www.usgwarchives.net/copyright.htm ************************************************ JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 71 Today's Topics: #1 Mother of John Lyons, Sr. [QFHA43A@prodigy.com ( ROBERT L BRO] #2 JOHN LYONS Sr., Land Transactions [vcundy@juno.com (VALERIE L CUNDY)] #3 Re: Obit for J.J. Hewitt, husband ["Walter N. Langham, Jr." ] #5 Re: Obit for J.J. Hewitt, husband ["Walter N. Langham, Jr." Subject: Mother of John Lyons, Sr. In giving her connection to John Lyons, Ruby Dusek gave, as the parents of John Lyons, Samuel LYONS of Germany and Agnes Judith [ERINXMAN?] . I would be interested in any documentation that she might have. Robert Broussard ______________________________X-Message: #2 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 21:06:33 -0400 From: vcundy@juno.com (VALERIE L CUNDY) To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <19980809.210636.3270.4.VCUNDY@juno.com> Subject: JOHN LYONS Sr., Land Transactions This is a copy of a handwritten letter to Mr. Lyons. * * * Mr. Lyon An Indian Attakapas has applied to me to complain that by spite of him you have taken his land and made on it your cow pen.----If it is so you cannot keep it except you buy it from him formally and in such manner that neither he neither any body else may trouble you in your possession. I am your servant (signed) M. Duralde 17th Nov 1800 * * * Opel : 1801, Feb 25 Sale of Land by Tichot ( or Tichau), Attakapas Indian to John Lyons, French and English * * * Public Land Records, pg. 138 No. 95-- John Lyon claims a tract of land of about fifty arpents front by the ordinary depth, on the west side of Bayou Queue de Tortue, by purchase from the Indians. The notice is accompanied by a deed of sale from Celestine, of the village of Attakapas, with Bernard, chief and Little John, captain, to the claimant, passed before Louis C. de Blanc, the commandant, the 19th August, 1802, "reserving the approbation of the Governor General of the province, being so authorized by the 31st article of the new regulations of the Intendancy General;" price eighty-seven dollars. For testimony and remarks of the commissioners respecting this claim, see the next following number. No. 96--John Lyon claims a tract of fifty or fifty-six arpents from on the east side of Bayou Queue de Tortue, by purchase from an Indian named Tichot. The deed of sale from said Tichot, married to the widow Potate, and acting fro her and the Attakapas Indians, passed before Martin Duralde, commandant, 25th February, 1801, to the claimant, is filed with the notice; the land to be bounded on one side by Francois Stelly , and on the other by vacant land opposite to and fronting, the place then occupied by the claimant, for four cows and four four year old beeves. A letter from Mr. Duralde to the claimant, of which the following is a copy, is also filed with the notice; " Mr. Lyon, and Indian Attakapas, has applied to me to complain that by spite of him you have taken his land and made on it your cow pen.----If it is so you cannot keep it except you buy it from him formally and in such manner that neither he neither any body else may trouble you in your possession. I am your servant , (signed) M. Duralde, 17th Nov 1800" Paul Bantin, before the Board, the 28th November, 1812, hath deposed, "that , some time in the year 1800. this deponent was present when a sale was passed by an Indian chief of the Attakapas tribe, named Tichot, to John Lyon, before Mr. Duralde, then commandant of the post of Opelousas, for a tract of land on the south side of bayou Queue de Tortue, when the deponent recollects to have heard the said John Lyons inform the commandant that the land which he had then, by his directions, bought from the Indians, was the same tract or embraced the same tract, for which the said Lyons had been informed the commandant had sanctioned and signed a requete to Mr. Francois Stelly; to which the said commandant, in reply, acknowledged "that he had sanctioned such a requete; that he had done it without a knowledge of the land being occupied by the said Lyon; and further observed, that the requete could not affect the Indian title, for that five hundred requetes could not take the land from them without their voluntary consent." The deponent saith further, "that Michel Lyons, on of the sons of John Lyon, settled on the land purchased by the said John Lyons from the Indians, about the year 1800; that the said M. Lyons was more than twenty-one years of age, and the head of a family; that John Lyons, Jun. another son of said John Lyon, has been married about seven or eight years, and settled on a part of the same land immediately thereafter; that Gabriel Lyon, another son, has been married five or six years, and settled on the said land; that Samuel, another son of the said John Lyon, has been married about one year, and is settled on the land in question; that Elizabeth Lyon, a daughter of the said John, has been married seven or eight years , and , with her husband, settled on the land in question, where she resided about one year with her husband, and then removed off. That the said John Lyon has two other sons unmarried, and living with him, the youngest about fourteen years old. That, by these several marriages, the said John Lyon has ten or eleven grandchildren living, and that the whole of his family, the daughter and her offspring excepted, are now residing on the lands which he purchased from the Indians; and so far as has come to the knowledge of this deponent, neither hold nor claim any other land in this State, either by grant from the Spanish Government or by purchase from any other person." John Coleman, before the Board, 28th November, 1812, having reference to this and the next preceding claim, hath deposed, "that he is well acquainted with the tracts of land on both sides of the bayou, and knows that the said Lyon now resides on the tract on the north side of the said bayou which was purchased from the Indian named Celestine; that this deponent was present in the year 1800, to the best of his knowledge, though it may have been in the early part of the year 1801, and was then called upon to witness the setting of certain bound-posts at the upper and lower extremities if the tract on the south side of the said bayou, by the Indians who had sold those lands to Mr. Lyon; that there were present at this ceremony as many as three or more Indians, among whom was the chief, called Tichot.That the post set at the upper extremity of the tract stands on a point of high land, near the lower margin of a marais, called the Grand Marais, and about one mile above the present habitation of Michel Lyon, who settled at the old village of the said Indians; and that the lover boundary was established about two miles below the habitation of the said Michel Lyon, but the precise distance is not known to the deponent, as no measure was used at the time of establishing boundaries. That, in setting the lower boundary, the Indians would have gone lower down the bayou---and pointed to a point of woods at least one mile further down, which they proposed to make the boundary---but the said Lyon being content to go no further, they stopped and established the boundary as above mentioned. The deponent further said, that he was present and witnessed the establishing of boundaries on the tract on the north side of the bayou, in the summer of the year 1802, when there were present fifteen or twenty Indians, perhaps more, among whom was Celestine, the chief, who had sold the tract on that side. That a wild cherry tree, standing about one mile and a half above the present habitation of the said John Lyon, was marked for the upper boundary, and that a post was set at the lower extremity of what was then considered the purchase, about two miles in a right line below the cherry tree, to which the Indians were all consenting. That the establishment of these boundaries were, by express commandants, before whom the sales were passed.The deponent further said, that the points above mentioned embraced a tract of land which he had purchased from the Indians, as well as Mr. Lyon's part, and that in establishing the boundary, it was understood that the deponent's part was to extend from the cherry tree down to a certain point of woods, about three hundred yards above the house of the said John Lyon, which has ever since been respected by the deponent and the said Lyon as the division between their said lands. That the limits above mentioned, on the north side of the bayou, are known by the deponent to embrace an old village which had been inhabited by the Indians, and that some of the posts of their huts were standing at the time the boundaries were established." A survey has been made of the land by Joseph Aborn, deputy surveyor, to whom the following certificate was furnished by the claimant, and filed with the notice: "We John Lyon, Sen. and Michel Lyon, do hereby certify that Joseph Aborn commenced running the said John Lyon's Indian claim on the east side of bayou Tortue, where the Indians established the claimant's post, and did not extend the front of the claim as far up the bayou, by a considerable distance, as the point where the Indians established the upper post of the claim, the claimant not wishing to take in any more land' and we do hereby hold ourselves responsible to prove, to the satisfaction of the Board of Commissioners, that the above statement is correct. (signed) Michel Lyon, his X mark, John Lyon, teste, Samuel Laverty. November 10,1810." Any title which the claimant, John Lyon, could have dervived to the tract of land in question from settlement founded on acts of Congress, is barred by his sale of a tract of land held under settlement right, which has been confirmed to Con't page 139 George King, by the certificate of the commissioners, marked B No. 980. His right , therefore , to the land in question, must depend on his purchase from the Indians. In the report of claims for the county of Opelousas, No. 1 page 93, the Board have already shown that the ratification by the Governor of the province, whilst Louisiana was a Spanish province, was necessary to give validity to Indian sales. Neither the sale in this case , nor in that referred to in No. 95, have received the sanction of the Governor; but the letter of Mr. Duralde, the commandant of the post, not only urging the necessity of a purchase from the Indians, as a means of extinguishing their title, but giving strong intimatious that it would secure him against the claims of all other persons, must have had a great influence with the claimant in inducing him to make the purchase. This together with the circumstance of the many families which have been establish on the land, children of the claimant, some before the change of Government, none of whom appear to have held any other land under the Spanish Government, and therefor under the provisions of the acts of Congress, might , if they had so claimed, have been entitled to a part of the land in question, are at least strong equitable circumstances in favor of these claims. Although, as will appear by the testimony, several children of the claimant have established themselves on the land in question subsequently to the change of Government, yet , as it is probable they have done so in full confidence that their father's purchase, under the circumstances of the case, was a valid one; if Congress should not deem it proper to confirm the claim to its full extent, about the area of a French league square, five thousand eight hundred and seventy-six and ninety-five one hundredths acres, the Board would recommend the confirmation of the title for at least six hundred and forty acres to each family settled on the land, giving an area of three thousand eight hundred and forty acres. * * * Valerie Cundy _____________________________________________________________________ ______________________________X-Message: #3 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 08:23:49 -0500 From: "Walter N. Langham, Jr." To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <006001bdc462$1cf1f520$d09086d0@default> Subject: Re: Obit for J.J. Hewitt, husband of Amanda Lyons Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is this Amanda the daughter of Gabriel and Mary Ann Bryan? Barbara ______________________________X-Message: #4 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 08:41:23 -0600 From: Jan Craven To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980810084123.008e6a30@mailhost.iamerica.net> Subject: Re: Obit for J.J. Hewitt, husband of Amanda Lyons Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" That is a possibility. I don't have a "real date" for her birth. Only 1842-1845. NO dod. Amanda that is bur at BW and m. to JJ Hewitt was b. 4 Nov 1845 and d. 31 Dec 1909. Anyone know??? Jan At 08:23 AM 8/10/1998 -0500, you wrote: >Is this Amanda the daughter of Gabriel and Mary Ann Bryan? >Barbara > > ______________________________X-Message: #5 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 10:34:18 -0500 From: "Walter N. Langham, Jr." To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <02de01bdc474$57679ae0$159186d0@default> Subject: Re: Obit for J.J. Hewitt, husband of Amanda Lyons Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HELP I have a bigger mess here than I thought. I have two Amanda's. One is daughter of John and Amanda Stanton. I have her married to Benjamin Lyons. The other Amanda is daughter of Gabriel and Mary. I don't have an Amanda married to J.J. Hewitt. Where does she belong? Barbara ******************************************** JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 72 Today's Topics: #1 Re: Obit for J.J. Hewitt, husband [Jan Craven ] #2 Re: Obit for J.J. Hewitt, husband ["Walter N. Langham, Jr." ] #7 Re: Mother of John Lyons, Sr [vcundy@juno.com (VALERIE L CUNDY)] ______________________________X-Message: #1 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 11:21:21 -0600 From: Jan Craven To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980810112121.008e6c30@mailhost.iamerica.net> Subject: Re: Obit for J.J. Hewitt, husband of Amanda Lyons Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" HA HA HA HA LOL! There are TWO Amanda Lyons. BOTH of which are bur in Big Woods. However the one that is the daughter of John and Amanda Stanton doesn't have a marker, but was mentioned in the original 1963 reading of the cemetery by Vivian S Hebert. She notes the dates and also found no marker but doesn't give her source of information. She does give the dates and that she is the w/o Benjamin Lyons. The marker for Amanda, w/o JJ Hewitt is there! w/ info that she is the w/o JJ Hewitt and the grave is next to "Jonathon J. Hewitt" with John J. Hewitt on the other side of Jonathon! Looks like the Hewitts are having as much fun as WE are! I really do think that Amanda b. in 1845 is the d/o Mary Ann Bryan and Abel Lyons. I just want some input from some of you who are closer to this line than I am. Jan At 10:34 AM 8/10/1998 -0500, you wrote: >HELP I have a bigger mess here than I thought. I have two > Amanda's. One is daughter of John and Amanda Stanton. >I have her married to Benjamin Lyons. The other Amanda is daughter of >Gabriel and Mary. I don't have an Amanda married to J.J. Hewitt. Where >does she belong? >Barbara > > ______________________________X-Message: #2 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 11:30:24 -0500 From: "Walter N. Langham, Jr." To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <053b01bdc47c$2de4cc80$159186d0@default> Subject: Re: Obit for J.J. Hewitt, husband of Amanda Lyons Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Jan, Glad you don't charge by the hour. Barbara ______________________________X-Message: #3 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 19:00:49 -0500 (CDT) From: joydm@webtv.net (Joy Moore) To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <15326-35CF89B1-309@mailtod-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Obit for J.J. Hewitt, husband of Amanda Lyons Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Jan, Just got home from Mom's Stopped in Jasper, Tx to look some marriages and found A yellow tablet sheet of Lyons from 1849 to 1925 One was MALACHI LYONS to Cynthia Ann Roberts 1-13-1862 Emma Lyons to Moses Hadnot 9-15-1884 CORA Lyons to Richard Harrison 9-15-1884 Ras Lyons to Viny Reed 1-15-1882 Henry Lyons to Allie Powell 1-61-1892 Alfred Lyons to Sarah Jae Moore 9-8-1859 These are the oldest but they continue until 1925 Thought you might like to have Them I'll mail them to you JOY ______________________________X-Message: #4 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 20:48:15 -0400 From: vcundy@juno.com (VALERIE L CUNDY) To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <19980810.205429.8518.0.VCUNDY@juno.com> Subject: AMANDA, wife of J.J. Hewitt AMANDA LYONS (ABEL, MICHAEL, JOHN, SAMUEL LYON(S)) (Source: 1870 Census Record, Calcasieu Parish.) was born 04 November, 1845 (Source: Big Woods Cemetery Records.), and died 31 December, 1909 (Source: Big Woods Cemetery Records.). She married JOHN J. HEWITT (Source: Probate Record - Abel Lyons and Wife Mary A. Lyons, #451.) Abt. 1870. Children of AMANDA LYONS and JOHN HEWITT are: i. JOHN J. HEWITT. ii. YINNA HEWITT. iii. EVERETT HEWITT. iv. LAWRENCE HEWETT.. v. PRESTON HEWITT. _________________________________________________________________ ______________________________X-Message: #5 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 20:54:25 -0400 From: vcundy@juno.com (VALERIE L CUNDY) To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <19980810.205429.8518.1.VCUNDY@juno.com> Subject: AMANDA, wife of Benjamin Lyons Here's my two cents worth.......... Valerie * * * 1. BENJAMIN LYONS (MICHAEL, JOHN, SAMUEL LYON(S)) (Source: (1) 1850 Census Records, Calcasieu Parish, pg. 47, 372-432., (2) 1860 Census Record, Calcasieu Parish, 590-614.) was born 10 June, 1824 in Near Gueydan, Louisiana (Source: (1) Bible Record of Michael Lyons., (2) Ted Lyons Files., (3) Big Woods Cemetery Records, by Vivian Hebert Swent, pg 78.), and died 26 March, 1916 in Orange, Texas. He married AMANDA LYONS, was born, 24 August 1831 (Source: (1) Big Woods Cemetery Records.) Died, 23 March 1864 (Source: (1) Big Woods Cemetery Records ) married Abt. 1845 (Source: Based on the age of oldest child.). Notes for BENJAMIN LYONS: Big Woods Cemetery Records by Vivian Hebert Swent, pg. 78 notes that the original headstone was stolen for Benjamin Lyons and when it was replaced the years were wrong. He was born in 1824 and died March 26, 1916 Orange, Tx. Fuller Funeral Home there has records of his burial. Notes for AMANDA LYONS: Big Woods Cemetery Records, by Vivian Hebert Swent, pg. 78 Amanda Lyons, wife of Benjamin Lyons aged 32 yrs., 6 mos, 27 days. No marker found. Additional notes on pg. 144 state this Amanda may be the daughter of Amanda Stanton Lyons & John Lyons III. Amanda and Benjamin are listed next door to the possible parents of Amanda in the 1850 Census. Marriage Notes for BENJAMIN LYONS and AMANDA LYONS: Calcasieu Parish Census Records 1850, Amanda age 19 & 1860 Amanda age 24, wife of Benjamin. Children of BENJAMIN LYONS and AMANDA LYONS are: WALTER LYONS, b. 01 October, 1846 (Source: (1) 1850 Census Records, Calcasieu Parish., (2) 1860 Census Record, Calcasieu Parish.); d. 24 December, 1924 (Source: Succession Record, #509.); m. ELLEN JANE GILL (Source: Civil War Veterans of Old Imp. Calcasieu Par. by SW Gen Soc.), 09 February, 1871, Bigwoods, La. Notes for WALTER LYONS: Civil War Veterans of Old Imp. Calcasiue Parish- Co. I, 28th (Thomas) La. Inf. On Federal Rolls of POW's captured and paroled, Vicksburg, Miss. 4 July 1863, Pension 1916, 1924. UVC camp #62 ELEANOR LYONS, b. 1848 (Source: (1) 1850 Census Records, Calcasieu Parish., (2) 1860 Census Record, Calcasieu Parish.). MANCEL LYONS, b. 08 November, 1850 (Source: 1860 Census Record, Calcasieu Parish.); d. 22 October, 1933; m. CORDELIA. CASSIEDANIA LYONS, b. 28 December, 1853 (Source: 1860 Census Record, Calcasieu Parish.); d. 21 January, 1945 (Source: Big Woods Cemetery Records, By Vivian Herbert Swent, pg 78.); m. MANUEL DEMMIER HEBERT. FRANCIS LYONS, b. 1856 (Source: 1860 Census Record, Calcasieu Parish.). TABITHA LYONS, b. 1858 (Source: 1860 Census Record, Calcasieu Parish.). _____________________________________________________________________ ______________________________X-Message: #6 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 21:56:49 -0500 From: "Ruby Dusek" To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <001501bdc4d4$5ac7db40$bde390d1@rubyduse> Subject: Re: Mother of John Lyons, Sr Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You will notice that Agnes Judah has Erinxman in parenthesis and with a question mark. That means I THINK that is her name. I have absolutely no proof of the maiden name of Agnes Judah. A pedigree chart published in Yellowed Pages gave her parents as Barinker Erinxman and Rebecca____. I wouldn't go so far as to say they are her parents. A LIST OF THE EARLY SETTLERS OF GEORGIA, Edited by Coulter and Saye, page 15 #407 - Erinxman, Barinker - age 28; farmer; Palatin TR servt; arrived 20 Dec 1737. #408 - ________, Rebecca, w.---Age 22 This seems to be a little young to be the parents of a girl who was married by 1741. I have something copied from another book, but can't find the title page, that shows Barinker Erinxmann born in 1709, his wife Rebecca who was born in 1715 and Johann Erinxmann, no birth date listed. They would be the correct age. A trip to Clayton is in order to find what book this is from. Some say Judah was her maiden name [it IS a surname], but in some records it is her first name - REVOLUTIONARY RECORDS OF GEORGIA Volume 2, 1778-1785, Minutes of the Executive Council, Monday 27th August 1781: " On an appeal of Samuel and Judah Lyons, who was ordered off by the Committee of the County of Richmond, before this Board. Ordered, That they have leave to carry the said negro woman down with them. " Samuel Lyons was an indentured servant in Georgia, as was his wife and John Erinxman and his wife. [Could this John Erinxman be the brother that our John was name for?] There are many records in the Colonial Records of Georgia that show Samuel getting land and it seems like John Erinxman was with him. His parents are never mentioned except in these two places. If they were old, it seems like they would not fit into the mold as indentured servants. this is all I have time for now. Sorry I am not able to prove her name, whatever it is. ruby dusek ______________________________X-Message: #7 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 23:21:24 -0400 From: vcundy@juno.com (VALERIE L CUNDY) To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <19980810.232127.4558.0.VCUNDY@juno.com> Subject: Re: Mother of John Lyons, Sr Good info Ruby.....It's a good thing you and Jan don't charge by the hour! We'd really be in trouble then. I think there would be a great deal of information to be had on our Samuel in Georgia, I took a brief trip to Savannah last year and visited a small library....There were many Lyons that turned up in the small branch I visited, I would imagine there would be some great finds there in a larger facility. I didn't have my work with me so I didn't gather anything at that time. I know...let's just all plan a trip to Georgia to research Samuel! Dosen't that sound like fun? Good night! Valerie *********************************************************** JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 73 Today's Topics: #1 Re: Obit for J.J. Hewitt, husband [Jan Craven ] #2 Re: Mother of John Lyons, Sr [ChezMary@aol.com] #3 Re: Obit for J.J. Hewitt, husband [joydm@webtv.net (Joy Moore)] #4 Re: Mother of John Lyons, Sr [joydm@webtv.net (Joy Moore)] #5 Shaw/Lyons ["Ruby Dusek" ] #6 Re: Mother of John Lyons, Sr [ChezMary@aol.com] #7 Re: Mother of John Lyons, Sr [joydm@webtv.net (Joy Moore)] #8 Re: Mother of John Lyons, Sr [Jan Craven ] #9 Re: Mother of John Lyons, Sr [joydm@webtv.net (Joy Moore)] #10 Re: Mother of John Lyons, Sr [Jan Craven ] #11 minutes/records [ChezMary@aol.com] #12 Imperial Museum [ChezMary@aol.com] #13 Re: Mother of John Lyons, Sr [joydm@webtv.net (Joy Moore)] #14 Re: minutes/records [joydm@webtv.net (Joy Moore)] #15 Re: Imperial Museum [Jan Craven ] #16 Re: minutes/records [ChezMary@aol.com] #17 Re: Imperial Museum [ChezMary@aol.com] #18 Re: minutes/records [joydm@webtv.net (Joy Moore)] #19 Re: minutes/records [ChezMary@aol.com] #20 Re: minutes/records [joydm@webtv.net (Joy Moore)] #21 Re: Imperial Museum [Jan Craven ] #22 Re: minutes/records [Jan Craven ] #23 Re: minutes/records [joydm@webtv.net (Joy Moore)] ______________________________X-Message: #1 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 07:54:58 -0600 From: Jan Craven To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980811075458.008fe3f0@mailhost.iamerica.net> Subject: Re: Obit for J.J. Hewitt, husband of Amanda Lyons Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Joy, GREAT, I'm waiting by the mailbox!! What I want to know is How many cans of worms does this fam have??? Do you think we will figger all these folks out in our lifetime??? LOL NATURALLY there are names on this list that I have never seen! NATURALLY!!! LOL Jan At 07:00 PM 8/10/1998 -0500, you wrote: >Jan, >Just got home from Mom's Stopped >in Jasper, Tx to look some marriages >and found A yellow tablet sheet of >Lyons from 1849 to 1925 One was >MALACHI LYONS to Cynthia Ann >Roberts 1-13-1862 Emma Lyons to >Moses Hadnot 9-15-1884 >CORA Lyons to Richard Harrison 9-15-1884 Ras Lyons to Viny Reed >1-15-1882 Henry Lyons to Allie >Powell 1-61-1892 Alfred Lyons to >Sarah Jae Moore 9-8-1859 These are >the oldest but they continue until >1925 Thought you might like to have >Them I'll mail them to you > >JOY > > ______________________________X-Message: #2 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 09:24:22 EDT From: ChezMary@aol.com To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <83c3b86b.35d04608@aol.com> Subject: Re: Mother of John Lyons, Sr Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit The BRADLEY LIBRARY in Columbus GA has a great deal of resource material and I think people that will do look ups for you. I've been thru their Family History file but at the time was not looking for LYONS! How silly! There is quite a bit of info on the Ga genweb too. Mary Dee ______________________________X-Message: #3 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 09:01:33 -0500 (CDT) From: joydm@webtv.net (Joy Moore) To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <3663-35D04EBD-3@mailtod-102.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Obit for J.J. Hewitt, husband of Amanda Lyons Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit will put them in mail today guess we will never catch up they procreate faster than we can find them JOY ______________________________X-Message: #4 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 09:06:20 -0500 (CDT) From: joydm@webtv.net (Joy Moore) To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <3659-35D04FDC-58@mailtod-102.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Mother of John Lyons, Sr Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Mary Dee, Did you ask at churches in Vinton to see about old records The Baptist is over 100 yrs old JOY ______________________________X-Message: #5 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 10:11:19 -0500 From: "Ruby Dusek" To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <002301bdc53a$63dc5100$b01890d1@rubyduse> Subject: Shaw/Lyons Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is in answer to a question by Shannon Shaw. It may be more confusing than enlightening. A friend asked me earlier if I knew where Shaw's Landing was. She has a newspaper article from the Beaumont Enterprise, 4 March 1977, written by two grandchildren of Serena Lyons Shaw, the daughter of Gabriel Lyons and Nancy Burleigh. I will quote as much as I can re-cycle from my notes. After the Civil War Camilla Shaw and her husband AJ Johnson come to Bolivar Peninsula in Chambers Countywhich is near Galveston. Her dad James Stokes Shaw came with them. They decided to buy land. James went back to Vermilion Parish to get Serena. While he was home, he died and was buried in the cemetery at Shaw's Landing. Serena, age 40, knowing her deceased husband wanted to go to Bolivar, and her daughter being there, decided to move. For a while she lived with her daughter and son-in-law but decided she wanted her old house. She and her children returned to Vermilion Parish. The house, which was put together with pegs, was taken apart in sections and loaded on a 4-masted schooner. In 1867 they sailed down the Vermilion to the Gulf and on to Bolivar, where the house was re-built just as it was before. The land is located south of the roadside park in Bolivar. Serena married in Opelousas at age 16, 24 January 1843. James was one of two sons of John C Shaw, who was a veteran of the War of 1812, and Camilla Newman. John C Shaw married Rebecca Merriman who was the widow of David Lyons, Jr. [James' brother was William Wade Shaw according to the article.] Serena died in 1918 at age 91 and is buried in Landrum Cemetery near Fannet which is just southwest of Beaumont. -------------------------- This is all I can get from my notes. I have not checked the accuracy of any of it. It IS a family story written in a newspaper. Looking in books I have that pertain to this group: Father Hebert's revised volumes 1 and 2 - and they are wonderful with their everyname index, and the Vermilion Parish History: In the Vermilion Parish History book are Granville Shaw, who was a sheriff of Vermilion, and his father John Berwick Shaw. John Berwick Shaw is the son of John C Shaw and Rebecca Merriman. Granville is supposed to have been born on Nunez Island according to VPH. He died in 1909. Perhaps there is an obit in the Meridional. The only Nunez I can remember is halfway between Abbeville and Kaplan and nowhere near the Vermilion. Again looking in VPH, Adrien Nunez owned Live Oak Plantation south of Abbeville on the Vermilion. Could this have been referred to as Nunez Island? It would fit with the Shaw home being on the bayou. ------------ Let's see if I can get this straight with Father Hebert, Vermilion Parish History and article in Beaumont Enterprise, the last two undocumented: gen 1 Thomas Berwick married Eleanor Brigit Wales. Two of their children were: Eleanor and Mary Berwick gen 2 William Newman married Eleanor Berwick and had a daughter Camilla Newman. After William died, Eleanor became the second wife of Michael Lyons. John Merriman married Mary Berwick and had a daughter Rebecca Merriman. gen 3 John C Shaw married (1) Camilla Newman in Franklin 2 August 1818.[dau of William and Eleanor] Two known children were William Wade Shaw and James Stokes Shaw m 24 Jan 1843 Opelousas to Serena Lyons, the niece of Michael Lyons Camilla Newman Shaw died 11 October 1827 at age 24 John C Shaw married (2) 5 Jan 1829, Rebecca Merriman, widow of David Lyons who was brother of Michael Lyons One known child was Granville Berwick Shaw. So, Granville Berwick Shaw was the nephew of his father's half brother, James Stokes Shaw. Nunez Island is possibly the location of Shaw's Landing, which is possibly near Live Oak Plantation. But maybe not. I leave in the morning for 12 days in Abbeville, so it will be quiet from this end. Unfortunately there will be little time for research, but I'm sure I will find a little somewhere along the way. The 4 hour drive usually takes at least 6 or more! ruby dusek ______________________________X-Message: #6 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 13:55:48 EDT From: ChezMary@aol.com To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <34d5bc44.35d085a5@aol.com> Subject: Re: Mother of John Lyons, Sr Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Yes I did-the Baptist does not have "old" records. Only to 192- something I think he said. Bryan Perkins, one of our new members' father is the pastor there and has been for some time. ______________________________X-Message: #7 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 13:41:35 -0500 (CDT) From: joydm@webtv.net (Joy Moore) To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <2757-35D0905F-128@mailtod-102.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Mother of John Lyons, Sr Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Hi Earl Lyons grson/o Bennett Lyons remembers seeing hand written accounts of church incidents concerning the church and the Perkins family when he was younger He is 80 now His Mother was Irene Perkins + Elmo Lyons right there in Vinton Might be interesting to ask around JOY ______________________________X-Message: #8 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 14:23:15 -0600 From: Jan Craven To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980811142315.008ef690@mailhost.iamerica.net> Subject: Re: Mother of John Lyons, Sr Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" There are still in existence the minutes for the church at Big Woods that many of our folks went to. Do you think that might be what he is talking about?? Jan At 01:41 PM 8/11/1998 -0500, you wrote: >Hi >Earl Lyons grson/o Bennett Lyons >remembers seeing hand written >accounts of church incidents >concerning the church and the >Perkins family when he was younger >He is 80 now His Mother was Irene >Perkins + Elmo Lyons right there in >Vinton Might be interesting to ask around > >JOY > > ______________________________X-Message: #9 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 14:32:14 -0500 (CDT) From: joydm@webtv.net (Joy Moore) To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <2754-35D09C3E-436@mailtod-102.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Mother of John Lyons, Sr Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit He said it was handwritten Did you get the e mail I sent TO YOU last week? He said told of Rees Perkins building the church at Big Woods with slave labor, etc JOY ______________________________X-Message: #10 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 14:40:37 -0600 From: Jan Craven To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980811144037.008eae50@mailhost.iamerica.net> Subject: Re: Mother of John Lyons, Sr Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Joy et al. Yes, I got it. The original church was built by slave labor..slaves belonging to James Perkins, S/o Rees and Martha. Those church minutes were transcribed by Vivian Swent Hebert and published with the 1963 reading of BW Cem. The original copy is in the Imperial Calcasieu Museum in VERY fragile condition. My life is crazy right now and I haven't had a chance to look to see if that is in there. It is kinda dry reading and tends to put me to sleep! The account of the slaves building the church is from a newsclipping on BW that I have from the Am. Press. I don't doubt that it was, I just have not seen the documentation on it. At 02:32 PM 8/11/1998 -0500, you wrote: >He said it was handwritten Did you >get the e mail I sent TO YOU last week? >He said told of Rees Perkins building >the church at Big Woods with slave >labor, etc > >JOY > > ______________________________X-Message: #11 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 15:47:34 EDT From: ChezMary@aol.com To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <50698e9d.35d09fd7@aol.com> Subject: minutes/records Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit do you think Johnny Shaw may have any of that stuff ? ______________________________X-Message: #12 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 15:46:34 EDT From: ChezMary@aol.com To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <9220439b.35d09f9b@aol.com> Subject: Imperial Museum Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Jan, is that the one in Sulphur ? md ______________________________X-Message: #13 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 14:00:43 -0500 (CDT) From: joydm@webtv.net (Joy Moore) To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <6952-35D0A2EB-434@mailtod-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Mother of John Lyons, Sr Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit I will write him again and ask Every letter gives me a littl more he remembers He said Rees was first Elder I think it might be a handwritten book of Perkins Family , JOY ______________________________X-Message: #14 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 15:09:10 -0500 (CDT) From: joydm@webtv.net (Joy Moore) To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <6954-35D0A4E6-505@mailtod-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Subject: Re: minutes/records Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Where is museum in Sulpher? I plan to come that way next Month JOY ______________________________X-Message: #15 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 15:13:17 -0600 From: Jan Craven To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980811151317.008e9ab0@mailhost.iamerica.net> Subject: Re: Imperial Museum Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" No, it's the one on Sallier Street. And as far as I know this is the one and only original copy. Rosemary Caraway and I were in there the last time she was over here and that is when I saw it. jk At 03:46 PM 8/11/1998 EDT, you wrote: >Jan, >is that the one in Sulphur ? >md > > ______________________________X-Message: #16 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 16:13:50 EDT From: ChezMary@aol.com To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <36dd94b2.35d0a600@aol.com> Subject: Re: minutes/records Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Joy, Jann hasn't answered my mail so I'm not sure if it's the same one. If so it's on the West side of town near the golf course and close to hiway 90 toward Big Woods and VInton. You can make all 3 stops easily!!! mdee ______________________________X-Message: #17 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 16:16:09 EDT From: ChezMary@aol.com To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <84206759.35d0a68a@aol.com> Subject: Re: Imperial Museum Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit where is Sallier St for those of us that don't live there-------- what is the Museum----just remembered it's BRIMSTONE--what's there ? mdee ______________________________X-Message: #18 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 15:20:35 -0500 (CDT) From: joydm@webtv.net (Joy Moore) To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <6955-35D0A793-444@mailtod-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Subject: Re: minutes/records Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit GREAT Thats what I'll do!!! JOY ______________________________X-Message: #19 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 16:26:17 EDT From: ChezMary@aol.com To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: Subject: Re: minutes/records Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit maybe ' we ' folks that live close can have a pow wow while you are there. Anyone interested ? mary dee houston ______________________________X-Message: #20 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 15:33:10 -0500 (CDT) From: joydm@webtv.net (Joy Moore) To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <6956-35D0AA86-386@mailtod-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Subject: Re: minutes/records Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Suits me!! Will probably be visiting several cousins We will make plans later OK? i'll have to set date JOY ______________________________X-Message: #21 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 15:40:48 -0600 From: Jan Craven To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980811154048.008f8100@mailhost.iamerica.net> Subject: Re: Imperial Museum Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Brimstone Museum is in Sulphur. They have a monthly exhibit there. The Imperial Calc. Museum in the one that is here in LC. Sallier Street is off Ryan Street. 12th street becomes Sallier. Sallier has a RR track running down the middle of it and the RR track goes into the Port of LC which is at the end of Sallier. Jan At 04:16 PM 8/11/1998 EDT, you wrote: >where is Sallier St for those of us that don't live there-------- > > >what is the Museum----just remembered it's BRIMSTONE--what's there ? > >mdee > > ______________________________X-Message: #22 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 15:42:38 -0600 From: Jan Craven To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980811154238.008fb3d0@mailhost.iamerica.net> Subject: Re: minutes/records Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I WANNA COME!!! jk At 04:26 PM 8/11/1998 EDT, you wrote: >maybe ' we ' folks that live close can have a pow wow while you are there. >Anyone interested ? > >mary dee > >houston > > ______________________________X-Message: #23 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 16:00:57 -0500 (CDT) From: joydm@webtv.net (Joy Moore) To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <6956-35D0B109-488@mailtod-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Subject: Re: minutes/records Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit YOU MAY !!! JOY ********************************************************************** JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 74 Today's Topics: #1 Correction Shaw/Lyons ["Ruby Dusek" ] #2 Virginia O'Bryan Collection ["CR_AUSTIN" To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <000701bdc5e2$e8e144c0$9f18dfd1@rubyduse> Subject: Correction Shaw/Lyons Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I hope this makes sense. I put the wrong name under gen 3, John C Shaw's second marriage: John C Shaw married (2) 5 Jan 1829, Rebecca Merriman, widow of David Lyons who was brother of Michael Lyons One known child was Granville Berwick Shaw.** **SHOULD READ: ONE KNOWN CHILD WAS JOHN BERWICK SHAW, THE FATHER OF GRANVILLE BERWICK SHAW. So, Granville Berwick Shaw was the nephew of his father's half brother, ______________________________X-Message: #2 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 05:30:59 -0700 From: "CR_AUSTIN" To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <199808121238.IAA65142@pimout3-int.prodigy.net> Subject: Virginia O'Bryan Collection Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just a note from Salt Lake City. I had e-mailed the library in Texas that has the Virginia O'Bryan collection, and they gave me the film numbers for the collection. I hadn't been able to find them in the FHLC and was headed for Salt Lake for research. I have some good news and some bad news. The good news is the films are in the library, the bad news is they still aren't in the catalog. That means you have no idea what is on each film. I decided that winding 17 rolls of microfilm wasn't worth the effort since I had no idea what was in each film. I looked at the first film; there was a lot on the O'Bryan family, followed by a lot of Berwick research. Next time they update the catalog it should all be there, and hopefully will tell you what is on each film. Carol Austin ************************************************************** JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 75 Today's Topics: #1 some lyons marriages ["Walter N. Langham, Jr." To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <002a01bdc7df$ec200dc0$d39286d0@default> Subject: some lyons marriages Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Got this list from Linda on the St Landry mailing list. Maybe someone can fit them into the family tree. Barbara. +ACI-You asked about Alfred Lyons b.1821( son of John Lyons). I do not have the Lyons name in my direct line but they did marry some of the children of both Valentine Clark and Benjamin McClelland. Children of Valentine Clark +ACY- Frances McClelland: Clara Clark m Michel Lyons Johanna Clark m Dr. Rafael Lyons Isaac Clark m Lydia Lyons Children of Benjamin McClelland +ACY- Ann Hayes: Meliaas Ann McClelland m Daniel Lyons Isaac McClelland m Zelian Lyons +ACI- ______________________________X-Message: #2 Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 10:06:24 -0400 From: vcundy@juno.com (VALERIE L CUNDY) To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <19980815.101310.3278.3.VCUNDY@juno.com> Subject: (VALERIE L CUNDY): WELCOME TO OUR NEWEST MEMBER As of Saturday, August 15th, The following have joined the list. 36 and growing!!!!! 1. Valerie Cundy 2. Jan Craven 3. Barbara Langham 4. David Lawrence 5. Lynn Bagley King 6. Ben Carroll 7. Mary Hammond 8. LV Hayes 9. Rosemary Carraway 10.Mary Lane 11.Jeremy Fountain 12.Jennifer Anne Turner 13.Laura Wright 14.Wayne Linebarger 15.Robert Broussard 16 Betty Gaiennie 17 Tim Lyons 18 Jo-Anne Arnaud 19. Ruby Dusek 20. Joy Moore 21. Harold Lawrence 22. Carol Austin 23. Sharon Shaw-- (Inactive) 24. Lesylee Gautreaux 25. Michael Bradford 26. Nelda Stebbins 27. Shirely Smith 28. Mary Antee 29. Jimmy Lawrence 30. Rand Wagner 31. Mike Baumann 32. Riecke Baumann 33. Mary Dee Nicks 34. Bryan Perkins 35. Shannon Shaw *36 BILL HALL WELCOME!!!! we invite you to post your connection to JOHN LYONS. We currently have descendants from 6 of the 7 children of John and Nancy. Please post how you descend from John Lyons to the list. So Far we have: MICHAEL Valerie Cundy Jeremy Fountain Wayne Linebarger Ti m Lyons Ruby Dusek Joy Moore Carol Austin JOHN JR. Ben Carroll Mary Hammond Rose Carraway Barbara Langham Laura Wright Mary Lane Shirley Smith Bill Hall GABRIEL Sharon Shaw Shannon Shaw ELIZABETH SAMUEL Jennifer Turner Jo Anne Arnaud Betty Gaiennie Robert Broussard WILLIAM Jan Craven Laura Wright Mary Dee Nicks DAVID David Lawrence Lynn King Harold Lawrence Michael Bradford Mary Antee Jimmy Lawrence Rand Wagner Mike Baumann Riecke Baumann ____________________________________________________________________ JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 76 Today's Topics: #1 Re: (VALERIE L CUNDY): WELCOME TO [Jim Lawrence To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <35D5F73C.E93@everetts.net> Subject: Re: (VALERIE L CUNDY): WELCOME TO OUR NEWEST MEMBER Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Valerie, Please take me off the list at this time. I can get this info from my sister after she filters it. Thanks, Jimmy Lawrence VALERIE L CUNDY wrote: > > As of Saturday, August 15th, The following have joined the list. 36 > and growing!!!!! > > 1. Valerie Cundy > 2. Jan Craven > 3. Barbara Langham > 4. David Lawrence > 5. Lynn Bagley King > 6. Ben Carroll > 7. Mary Hammond > 8. LV Hayes > 9. Rosemary Carraway > 10.Mary Lane > 11.Jeremy Fountain > 12.Jennifer Anne Turner > 13.Laura Wright > 14.Wayne Linebarger > 15.Robert Broussard > 16 Betty Gaiennie > 17 Tim Lyons > 18 Jo-Anne Arnaud > 19. Ruby Dusek > 20. Joy Moore > 21. Harold Lawrence > 22. Carol Austin > 23. Sharon Shaw-- (Inactive) > 24. Lesylee Gautreaux > 25. Michael Bradford > 26. Nelda Stebbins > 27. Shirely Smith > 28. Mary Antee > 29. Jimmy Lawrence > 30. Rand Wagner > 31. Mike Baumann > 32. Riecke Baumann > 33. Mary Dee Nicks > 34. Bryan Perkins > 35. Shannon Shaw > *36 BILL HALL > > WELCOME!!!! we invite you to post your connection to JOHN LYONS. We > currently have descendants from 6 of the 7 children of John and Nancy. > Please post how you descend from John Lyons to the list. So Far we have: > > MICHAEL > > Valerie Cundy > Jeremy Fountain > Wayne Linebarger > Ti m Lyons > Ruby Dusek > Joy Moore > Carol Austin > > JOHN JR. > > Ben Carroll > Mary Hammond > Rose Carraway > Barbara Langham > Laura Wright > Mary Lane > Shirley Smith > Bill Hall > > GABRIEL > > Sharon Shaw > Shannon Shaw > > ELIZABETH > > SAMUEL > > Jennifer Turner > Jo Anne Arnaud > Betty Gaiennie > Robert Broussard > > WILLIAM > > Jan Craven > Laura Wright > Mary Dee Nicks > > DAVID > > David Lawrence > Lynn King > Harold Lawrence > Michael Bradford > Mary Antee > Jimmy Lawrence > Rand Wagner > Mike Baumann > Riecke Baumann > > _____________________________________________________________________ ______________________________X-Message: #2 Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 16:35:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Lesylee Gautreaux To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <19980815233521.9929.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Subject: Re: (VALERIE L CUNDY): WELCOME TO OUR NEWEST MEMBER Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ---VALERIE L CUNDY wrote: > > As of Saturday, August 15th, The following have joined the list. 36 > and growing!!!!! > > > 1. Valerie Cundy > 2. Jan Craven > 3. Barbara Langham > 4. David Lawrence > 5. Lynn Bagley King > 6. Ben Carroll > 7. Mary Hammond > 8. LV Hayes > 9. Rosemary Carraway > 10.Mary Lane > 11.Jeremy Fountain > 12.Jennifer Anne Turner > 13.Laura Wright > 14.Wayne Linebarger > 15.Robert Broussard > 16 Betty Gaiennie > 17 Tim Lyons > 18 Jo-Anne Arnaud > 19. Ruby Dusek > 20. Joy Moore > 21. Harold Lawrence > 22. Carol Austin > 23. Sharon Shaw-- (Inactive) > 24. Lesylee Gautreaux > 25. Michael Bradford > 26. Nelda Stebbins > 27. Shirely Smith > 28. Mary Antee > 29. Jimmy Lawrence > 30. Rand Wagner > 31. Mike Baumann > 32. Riecke Baumann > 33. Mary Dee Nicks > 34. Bryan Perkins > 35. Shannon Shaw > *36 BILL HALL > > WELCOME!!!! we invite you to post your connection to JOHN LYONS. We > currently have descendants from 6 of the 7 children of John and Nancy. > Please post how you descend from John Lyons to the list. So Far we have: > > MICHAEL > > Valerie Cundy > Jeremy Fountain > Wayne Linebarger > Ti m Lyons > Ruby Dusek > Joy Moore > Carol Austin > > JOHN JR. > > Ben Carroll > Mary Hammond > Rose Carraway > Barbara Langham > Laura Wright > Mary Lane > Shirley Smith > Bill Hall > > GABRIEL > > Sharon Shaw > Shannon Shaw > > ELIZABETH > > SAMUEL > > Jennifer Turner > Jo Anne Arnaud > Betty Gaiennie > Robert Broussard > > WILLIAM > > Jan Craven > Laura Wright > Mary Dee Nicks > > DAVID > > David Lawrence > Lynn King > Harold Lawrence > Michael Bradford > Mary Antee > Jimmy Lawrence > Rand Wagner > Mike Baumann > Riecke Baumann I have been listed under "William" in past lists. I'm still alive & kickin', so I don't know why my name got buried somewhere. :-) Lesylee ______________________________X-Message: #3 Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 22:58:26 -0400 From: vcundy@juno.com (VALERIE L CUNDY) To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <19980815.231307.3278.11.VCUNDY@juno.com> Subject: Re: (VALERIE L CUNDY): WELCOME TO OUR NEWEST MEMBER Don't know what happened Lesylee....but it has been corrected. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Valerie _____________________________X-Message: #4 Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 22:55:15 -0400 From: vcundy@juno.com (VALERIE L CUNDY) To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <19980815.231307.3278.7.VCUNDY@juno.com> Subject: Member Updates & Corrections As of Saturday, August 15th, The following have joined the list. 36 and growing!!!!! 1. Valerie Cundy 2. Jan Craven 3. Barbara Langham 4. David Lawrence 5. Lynn Bagley King 6. Ben Carroll 7. Mary Hammond 8. LV Hayes 9. Rosemary Carraway 10.Mary Lane 11.Jeremy Fountain 12.Jennifer Anne Turner 13.Laura Wright 14.Wayne Linebarger 15.Robert Broussard 16 Betty Gaiennie 17 Tim Lyons 18 Jo-Anne Arnaud 19. Ruby Dusek 20. Joy Moore 21. Harold Lawrence 22. Carol Austin 23. Sharon Shaw-- (Inactive) 24. Lesylee Gautreaux 25. Michael Bradford 26. Nelda Stebbins 27. Shirely Smith 28. Mary Antee 29. Riecke Baumann (Inactive) 30. Rand Wagner 31. Mike Baumann 32. Jimmy Lawrence (Inactive) 33. Mary Dee Nicks 34. Bryan Perkins 35. Shannon Shaw *36 BILL HALL WELCOME!!!! we invite you to post your connection to JOHN LYONS. We currently have descendants from 6 of the 7 children of John and Nancy. Please post how you descend from John Lyons to the list. So Far we have: MICHAEL Valerie Cundy Jeremy Fountain Wayne Linebarger Ti m Lyons Ruby Dusek Joy Moore Carol Austin JOHN JR. Ben Carroll Mary Hammond Rose Carraway Barbara Langham Laura Wright Mary Lane Shirley Smith Bill Hall GABRIEL Sharon Shaw Shannon Shaw ELIZABETH SAMUEL Jennifer Turner Jo Anne Arnaud Betty Gaiennie Robert Broussard WILLIAM Jan Craven Laura Wright Mary Dee Nicks Lesylee Gautreaux DAVID David Lawrence Lynn King Harold Lawrence Michael Bradford Mary Antee Jimmy Lawrence Rand Wagner Mike Baumann Riecke Baumann ______________________________X-Message: #5 Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 19:27:20 -0400 From: LV Hayes To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980815192720.006bf158@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: some lyons marriages Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 19:01:39 -0500 >From: "Walter N. Langham, Jr." >Subject: some lyons marriages > >Got this list from Linda on the St Landry mailing list. Maybe someone can >fit them into the family tree. > >Children of Valentine Clark +ACY- Frances McClelland: Valentine C. Clark and Frances "Fanny" McClelland. Frances was a daughter of the J. Benjamin mentioned further below. > Clara Clark m Michel Lyons Clara Jane Clark, born 6 Oct 1844 in St Landry Parish, married 21 Mar 1867 in St Landry Michael L. Lyons, born 1 Oct 1834 in St Landry, died 12 Aug 1912 at New Orleans. Michael was a son of Gabriel "Abel" Lyons and Mary Ann Bryan. > Johanna Clark m Dr. Rafael Lyons Johanna F. Clark, no further info; Rafael Lyons not previously recorded. > Isaac Clark m Lydia Lyons Isaac Erwin Clark, born circa 1841 in LA, died Dec 1881, married 5 May 1864 Lydia A. Lyons, born circa 1846 in LA, a daughter of Madison Lyons and Celestine Sloan. >Children of Benjamin McClelland +ACY- Ann Hayes: J. Benjamin McClelland, born circa 1798 in LA, married 21 Dec 1818 in St Landry Mary Ann Hayes, born circa 1797 in St Landry. > Meliaas Ann McClelland m Daniel Lyons Melissa Ann McClelland, born 1827 in St Landry, died 1854-60 in St Landry. I don't have this marriage recorded, but this Daniel Lyons may be the one born Apr 1822 in St Landry to Gabriel Lyons and Nancy Burleigh. > Isaac McClelland m Zelian Lyons Isaac McClelland, born circa 1825 in St Landry, married 2 Dec 1844 in St Landry Zelian (also Zeleann) Lyons, born 1825 in St Landry, a daughter of John Lyons II and Rebecca Gilchrist. Zelian had 2 later husbands. Corrections, additions, and comments welcome. LV Hayes lvhayes@worldnet.att.net ______________________________X-Message: #6 Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 07:20:52 -0500 (CDT) From: joydm@webtv.net (Joy Moore) To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <10862-35D6CEA4-25797@mailtod-102.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Subject: Re: some lyons marriages Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Does anyone know Samuel Lyons 60 who married Leyenne O'Bryan 36 in Jan 15-1859 ?? JOY *********************************************** JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 77 Today's Topics: #1 Re: Samuel Lyons ["Lynn & Bill King" To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <001601bdc929$6d092580$70e690d1@default> Subject: Re: Samuel Lyons Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Does anyone know Samuel Lyons 60 who married Leyenne O'Bryan 36 in Jan 15-1859 ?? JOY << Joy, Samuel (60), Leyenne (36)....my kind of guy !! Who said the fellows in 1859 weren't 'far thinking' ? Bill King ****************************************************************** JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 78 Today's Topics: #1 roll call [shanley ] #2 (VALERIE L CUNDY): WELCOME TO OUR [vcundy@juno.com (VALERIE L CUNDY)] ______________________________X-Message: #1 Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 18:20:26 -0500 From: shanley To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <35DA0C3A.9A8@hic.net> Subject: roll call Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My name is Susan Fleck Shanley and this is how I connect to John Lyons: Samuel Lyons of Germany and Agnes Judah John Lyons Sr and Nancy Ahart Samuel Lyons, Jr and Tabitha Hayes Richard Ahart Lyons and Catherine Perkins Dosite Broussard and Tabitha Lyona Raymond C Broussard and Estella Perry ______________________________X-Message: #2 Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 19:54:19 -0400 From: vcundy@juno.com (VALERIE L CUNDY) To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <19980818.233255.8966.1.VCUNDY@juno.com> Subject: (VALERIE L CUNDY): WELCOME TO OUR NEWEST MEMBER Glad to have you Susan! Don't forget to visit the archives to catch up on everything that we've shared on the list. Valerie As of Tuesday, August 18th, The following have joined the list. 34 and growing!!!!! 1. Valerie Cundy 2. Jan Craven 3. Barbara Langham 4. David Lawrence 5. Lynn Bagley King 6. Ben Carroll 7. Mary Hammond 8. LV Hayes 9. Rosemary Carraway 10.Mary Lane 11.Jeremy Fountain 12.Jennifer Anne Turner 13.Laura Wright 14.Wayne Linebarger 15.Robert Broussard 16 Betty Gaiennie 17 Tim Lyons 18 Jo-Anne Arnaud 19. Ruby Dusek 20. Joy Moore 21. Harold Lawrence 22. Carol Austin 23. Sharon Shaw-- (Inactive) 24. Lesylee Gautreaux 25. Michael Bradford 26. Nelda Stebbins 27. Shirely Smith 28. Mary Antee 29. Riecke Baumann (Inactive) 30. Rand Wagner 31. Mike Baumann 32. Jimmy Lawrence (Inactive) 33. Mary Dee Nicks 34. Bryan Perkins 35. Shannon Shaw 36. Bill Hall *37. SUSAN SHANLEY WELCOME!!!! we invite you to post your connection to JOHN LYONS. We currently have descendants from 6 of the 7 children of John and Nancy. Please post how you descend from John Lyons to the list. So Far we have: MICHAEL Valerie Cundy Jeremy Fountain Wayne Linebarger Ti m Lyons Ruby Dusek Joy Moore Carol Austin JOHN JR. Ben Carroll Mary Hammond Rose Carraway Barbara Langham Laura Wright Mary Lane Shirley Smith Bill Hall GABRIEL Sharon Shaw Shannon Shaw ELIZABETH SAMUEL Jennifer Turner Jo Anne Arnaud Betty Gaiennie Robert Broussard Susan Shanley WILLIAM Jan Craven Laura Wright Mary Dee Nicks Lesylee Gautreaux DAVID David Lawrence Lynn King Harold Lawrence Michael Bradford Mary Antee Jimmy Lawrence Rand Wagner Mike Baumann Riecke Baumann ********************************************************************* JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 79 Today's Topics: #1 Estella Perry [LV Hayes To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980819155600.0080c560@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Estella Perry Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 18:20:26 -0500 >From: shanley >Subject: roll call > >My name is Susan Fleck Shanley and this is how I connect to John Lyons: > Samuel Lyons of Germany and Agnes Judah > John Lyons Sr and Nancy Ahart > Samuel Lyons, Jr and Tabitha Hayes > Richard Ahart Lyons and Catherine Perkins > Dosite Broussard and Tabitha Lyona > Raymond C Broussard and Estella Perry Hi, Susan! Can you identify the parents of Estella Perry? I have info on the Perrys of Calcasieu Parish and also on the Perrys of Vermilion Parish and environs who are probably related to the Calcasieu Perrys, but can't connect Estella to them. LV Hayes lvhayes@worldnet.att.net ******************************************************************** JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 80 Today's Topics: #1 Merriman [Albert Gravois To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <35DEE113.1320@mobiletel.com> Subject: Merriman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just found your group today on the internet and am very excited to find you. Just this week a new line popped up in my research into Rosalie Marianne Comstock d/o William Comstock of New Orleans. We began looking into a Comstock family from Ascension Parish, Louisiana, as a William Comstock of N.O. was buried in Donaldsonville, Ascension Parish. The patriarch of the Comstock family in Donaldsonville is evidently a Jean (John) Comstock who married Rosalie or RoseAnne Merriman (also spelled McMerriman, Mcmerram, McMillion, etc.) Since we are at a total standstill on the Comstock line, I decided to go through the back door, so to speak, and check out Merriman. U.S.GenWeb archive search turned up several hits on the John Lyons Group, finding Merriman's all over the list. Real exciting to me is that I recognize some things in your archived messages. One big one is the name "Aldridge". Rachel Aldridge married William Comstock and they lived for a time in St. Martin Parish, with many moving later on to Texas with Stephen Austin's group. I believe my William is closely related (which we can't verify as of yet) to this William and Rachel. I see you have an Aldridge also in your group. These are all very uncommon names for this part of the country. If we can find the parents of Rosalie Merriman, then we might find the parents of Jean Comstock, and then possibly find his siblings (hopefully a William who went to N.O.) It also seems that many of the Comstocks and kinfolks were in the law enforcement business. As I said, this is all VERY VERY NEW to our research and I hope we can share with your group anything that might help someone. Thanks, Patty Whitney Gravois, algravois@mobiletel.com ______________________________X-Message: #2 Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 11:37:53 -0500 From: "Lynn & Bill King" To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <01af01bdcdeb$370190a0$98e590d1@default> Subject: Fw: Children of David Merriman Lyons and Euphemie Petry Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: VALERIE L CUNDY To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, August 06, 1998 1:32 AM Subject: Re: Children of David Merriman Lyons and Euphemie Petry >On Wed, 5 Aug 1998 19:41:17 -0500 "Lynn & Bill King" > writes: > >> >>7. Joseph Oliver Lyons - b. 3 Feb 1883 - Vermilion Parish (Hebert, >>Southwest Louisiana >> Records, Vol 16, p 374, Abbeville Church V 4, p 349) > >Lynn, I don't have any sources for my info. and the date I had of this >birth was 3 Feb 1871 ? Can you check on this and let me know for sure. >Thanks, Valerie > Val - Looked up the Hebert record again and found: Lyons, Joseph Ollie (David & Euphemie Petry) b. 3 Feb 1883 (Abbeville Church, V 4, p 349) Wouldn't be the first mistake in there, though. Lynn *************************************************************** JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 81 Today's Topics: #1 Re: Merriman [LV Hayes To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980823072100.007d6aa0@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: Merriman Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 10:17:39 -0500 >From: Albert Gravois >Subject: Merriman > >Just found your group today on the internet and am very excited to find >you. Just this week a new line popped up in my research into Rosalie >Marianne Comstock d/o William Comstock of New Orleans. We began looking >into a Comstock family from Ascension Parish, Louisiana, as a William >Comstock of N.O. was buried in Donaldsonville, Ascension Parish. > The patriarch of the Comstock family in Donaldsonville is evidently a >Jean (John) Comstock who married Rosalie or RoseAnne Merriman (also >spelled McMerriman, Mcmerram, McMillion, etc.) > Since we are at a total standstill on the Comstock line, I decided to >go through the back door, so to speak, and check out Merriman. >U.S.GenWeb archive search turned up several hits on the John Lyons >Group, finding Merriman's all over the list. > Real exciting to me is that I recognize some things in your archived >messages. One big one is the name "Aldridge". Rachel Aldridge married >William Comstock and they lived for a time in St. Martin Parish, with >many moving later on to Texas with Stephen Austin's group. I believe my >William is closely related (which we can't verify as of yet) to this >William and Rachel. I see you have an Aldridge also in your group. >These are all very uncommon names for this part of the country. > If we can find the parents of Rosalie Merriman, then we might find >the parents of Jean Comstock, and then possibly find his siblings >(hopefully a William who went to N.O.) It also seems that many of the >Comstocks and kinfolks were in the law enforcement business. > As I said, this is all VERY VERY NEW to our research and I hope we >can share with your group anything that might help someone. Thanks, Patty >Whitney Gravois, algravois@mobiletel.com Hi, Patty! I'm a descendant of the William Comstock and Rachel Aldrich who settled in the St Martin Parish area in the late 1700s. They came down to LA from New England, probably to escape the Revolutionary War. William and Rachel were married in 1765 at Smithfield, Providence Co, RI. I have the names of their known children; in fact, I have info on the Comstock line going back to England. I have 11 John Comstocks listed, but none of them came to LA to my knowledge. As far as I know, William is the only member of this Comstock family that did. I do have a Rosalie Merriman listed. She was a daughter of William Merriman and Marie Adele Mouton and born circa 1845, place unknown. No husband or children identified for her. Since you didn't say what era you're talking about, I don't know if this could be the Rosalie you're looking for or not. If you have a birth date for your John Comstock, send it to me via private e-mail and I'll see if one of the 11 Johns could possibly be him. Incidentally, William's and Rachel's children married into the Berwick, Clark, Harned, and White families. If you have a connection to any of these families, that might also offer a clue. Most of these folks lived in the St Martin/Lafayette/St Mary/St Landry area, and many of them did move on to TX from the 1820s onwards. LV Hayes lvhayes@worldnet.att.net ********************************************************* JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 83 Today's Topics: #1 Hurricane Bonnie ["Ruby Dusek" ] #2 Re: Gabriel Jr. [vcundy@juno.com (VALERIE L CUNDY)] ______________________________X-Message: #1 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 19:55:02 -0500 From: "Ruby Dusek" To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <000f01bdd08c$3eaa7800$6018dfd1@rubyduse> Subject: Hurricane Bonnie Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Got back from Louisiana last night and am leaving at 6:55 in the morning for Washington Dulles to work with Red Cross and Hurricane Bonnie. I'll arrive at 12:35 just as Bonnie does. I am usually away from 4-6 weeks. I probably will not have e-mail, so will write when I get back. I found a few interesting things while I was in LA but do not have time to write tonight. ruby dusek ______________________________X-Message: #2 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 22:43:41 -0400 From: vcundy@juno.com (VALERIE L CUNDY) To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <19980825.224508.3270.9.VCUNDY@juno.com> Subject: Re: Gabriel Jr. Michael, this is what I have on Gabriel Jr. Is this the same family? Valerie * * * Descendants of Gabriel Lyons GABRIEL LYONS (GABRIEL, JOHN, SAMUEL LYON(S)) was born 25 November, 1812 in St Landry Parish, and died 07 February, 1876 in Plaquemin Brulee, St. Landry Parish. He married LOUISA LOUISE JOHNSON 01 November, 1834. More About GABRIEL LYONS: Obituary Info: 13 July, 1876, Lake Charles Echo, 13 July 1876 Vol. Vlll pg. 19 Children of GABRIEL LYONS and LOUISA JOHNSON are: i. GABRIEL LYONS III, b. 15 November, 1834. ii. MARIE LYONS, b. 29 January, 1836. iii. JOHN JOHNSON LYONS, b. 25 August, 1837, St. Landry Parish, Louisiana. iv. ANDRE LYONS, b. 06 May, 1839. v. CORALY LYONS, b. 01 May, 1842. Generation No. 2 JOHN JOHNSON LYONS (GABRIEL, GABRIEL, JOHN, SAMUEL LYON(S)) was born 25 August, 1837 in St. Landry Parish, Louisiana. He married FRANCIS A EQUEN. Children of JOHN LYONS and FRANCIS EQUEN are: i. EUGENE R6 LYONS. ii. SUSIE L LYONS. iii. LILLIAN K LYONS. iv. HOWARD J LYONS. v. CLAYTON M LYONS. vi. FREDERICK G LYONS. vii. PHALA LYONS. viii. NELLIE K LYONS. ***************************************************************** JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 82 Today's Topics: #1 Michael Lyons II ["Mike Lyons" ] #2 (VALERIE L CUNDY):Welcome to our n [vcundy@juno.com (VALERIE L CUNDY)] #3 Re: Michael Lyons II [Jan Craven ] #4 Gabriel Jr. [rlyons@lsu.edu] ______________________________X-Message: #1 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 00:07:35 -0500 From: "Mike Lyons" To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <002d01bdcfe6$46df29e0$7fbb48a6@4zknf> Subject: Michael Lyons II Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi. My name is Richard Michael Lyons II and I have been doing research into my background which eventually led me to discover the John Lyons web site. I live in Baton Rouge, Louisiana and have access to the State Archives which has been a great help for a novice such as myself. This is how I fit in: John Lyons + Nancy Ahart Gabriel Lyons Sr. + Amelia Hayes Gabriel Lyons Jr. + Louisa Johnson James Crawford Lyons + Clara Arceneaux Percy Marvin Lyons Sr. + Daisy Ransone (sp?) I have more information and hope to add to the work already existing. Information is plentiful on the Lyons' here in Baton Rouge. Michael Lyons II ______________________________X-Message: #2 Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 18:36:01 -0400 From: vcundy@juno.com (VALERIE L CUNDY) To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <19980825.085421.3270.1.VCUNDY@juno.com> Subject: (VALERIE L CUNDY):Welcome to our newest members As of Monday, August 24th, The following have joined the list. 38 and growing!!!!! 1. Valerie Cundy 2. Jan Craven 3. Barbara Langham 4. David Lawrence 5. Lynn Bagley King 6. Ben Carroll 7. Mary Hammond 8. LV Hayes 9. Rosemary Carraway 10.Mary Lane 11.Jeremy Fountain 12.Jennifer Anne Turner 13.Laura Wright 14.Wayne Linebarger 15.Robert Broussard 16 Betty Gaiennie 17 Tim Lyons 18 Jo-Anne Arnaud 19. Ruby Dusek 20. Joy Moore 21. Harold Lawrence 22. Carol Austin 23. Sharon Shaw-- (Inactive) 24. Lesylee Gautreaux 25. Michael Bradford 26. Nelda Stebbins 27. Shirely Smith 28. Mary Antee 29. Riecke Baumann (Inactive) 30. Rand Wagner 31. Mike Baumann 32. Jimmy Lawrence (Inactive) 33. Mary Dee Nicks 34. Bryan Perkins 35. Shannon Shaw 36. Bill Hall *37 SUSAN SHANLEY *38 MICHAEL LYONS WELCOME!!!! we invite you to post your connection to JOHN LYONS. We currently have descendants from 6 of the 7 children of John and Nancy. Please post how you descend from John Lyons to the list. So Far we have: MICHAEL Valerie Cundy Jeremy Fountain Wayne Linebarger Ti m Lyons Ruby Dusek Joy Moore Carol Austin JOHN JR. Ben Carroll Mary Hammond Rose Carraway Barbara Langham Laura Wright Mary Lane Shirley Smith Bill Hall GABRIEL Sharon Shaw Shannon Shaw ELIZABETH SAMUEL Jennifer Turner Jo Anne Arnaud Betty Gaiennie Robert Broussard Susan Shanley WILLIAM Jan Craven Laura Wright Mary Dee Nicks Lesylee Gautreaux DAVID David Lawrence Lynn King Harold Lawrence Michael Bradford Mary Antee Jimmy Lawrence Rand Wagner Mike Baumann Riecke Baumann ______________________________X-Message: #3 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:15:18 -0600 From: Jan Craven To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980825081518.00868770@mailhost.iamerica.net> Subject: Re: Michael Lyons II Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Michael, and welcome to the list. I live in Lake Charles. My ma lives in BR and I am over there to see her often. Maybe we can get together next time I go over. Jan At 12:07 AM 8/25/1998 -0500, you wrote: >Hi. My name is Richard Michael Lyons II and I have been doing research into >my background which eventually led me to discover the John Lyons web site. >I live in Baton Rouge, Louisiana and have access to the State Archives which >has been a great help for a novice such as myself. > >This is how I fit in: > >John Lyons + Nancy Ahart >Gabriel Lyons Sr. + Amelia Hayes >Gabriel Lyons Jr. + Louisa Johnson >James Crawford Lyons + Clara Arceneaux >Percy Marvin Lyons Sr. + Daisy Ransone (sp?) > >I have more information and hope to add to the work already existing. >Information is plentiful on the Lyons' here in Baton Rouge. > >Michael Lyons II > > ______________________________X-Message: #4 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:29:52 -0500 From: rlyons@lsu.edu To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8625666B.00549C62.00@mail041.lsu.edu> Subject: Gabriel Jr. Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline The children of Gabriel Lyons Jr. that I have found are as follows (with birth years): Gabriel III (1834) Adoisca (1836) Marie (1836) John (1837) -- became a doctor Andre (1839) Offut (1840) Coralie (1842) James Crawford (1848 or 1849) You may or may not be aware of these names; let me know if you have them. I will try to get the wives and husbands. mike ********************************************************************* OHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 84 Today's Topics: #1 Where is everyone????? [vcundy@juno.com (Valerie L Cundy)] #2 A week of silence. [David Lawrence ] #3 Re: A week of silence. [joydm@webtv.net (Joy Moore)] ______________________________X-Message: #1 Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 21:09:16 -0400 From: vcundy@juno.com (Valerie L Cundy) To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <19980902.210916.-139893.2.vcundy@juno.com> Subject: Where is everyone????? Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All, I've had a few messages wondering why there has been no activity on the list lately.....I don't really know why things have slowed down so much unless it's just getting things back in routine as school has started and vacations are winding down. I myself have taken a full time job this last week and haven't had a lot of free time. I do intend to stay active on the list as we get going again, any suggestions from anyone on a good place to start? Does anyone have any areas of there line they need help with? Does anyone have any good source information they are willing to post to the list? Come on ya'll....don't be shy, after all...we're all family :) Would love to hear from each of you with your thoughts and suggestions. Valerie ______________________________X-Message: #2 Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 17:38:52 -0700 From: David Lawrence To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980902173851.009e0020@mail> Subject: A week of silence. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I checked and I'm still subscribed but I've had no messages from the list for more than a week. This is a test to be sure that the list is working. Please excuse the interruption. David -- David Lawrence dlawrenc@mail.sdsu.edu | Genealogy Research: Center for Childhood Injury Prevention | DavidL2@home.com San Diego, California USA ______________________________X-Message: #3 Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 20:26:57 -0500 (CDT) From: joydm@webtv.net (Joy Moore) To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <9030-35EDF061-1490@mailtod-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Subject: Re: A week of silence. Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Gee I thought you had all left town ,it has been so quiet on the Lyons group but it is still working JOY *********************************************************** JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 85 Today's Topics: #1 Re: Where is everyone????? ["kellyt" ] _____________________________X-Message: #1 Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 22:29:25 -0500 From: "kellyt" To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <002201bdd946$8e9f8900$0912fed0@p2-400> Subject: Re: Where is everyone????? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Valerie and All others, Still here listening and learning to all of you and somewhat overwhelmed. You all have gotten so much further with your research, but then I did just get into this family tree stuff only about a year ago. I am also collecting tidbits from other Louisiana families that I descend from. Are any of ya'll cousins out there also related to any of the Vannoy or Pickett lines that have history in and around St. Landry? We will be having a family reunion on Oct 24, 1998 in Morrow, LA. If anyone wants to come e-mail me and I'll get an address from you and send out the flyer on it. These lines tie into these surnames: Sloan, Andrus, Hawthorne, Morey, Couzine, Montgomery, Gay, Lowe, Brantley, O'Quinn, Allen, Ogden, Nugent, Jewett, Brockston, Wilson, Spivey, Smith, Cain, Piper, Kirkpatrick, and King. Try and tell us we aint Irish :) Anyway love to read all I can on the Lyons, too. Jennifer- GGGGgranddaughter of Lavinia Anne Lyons -----Original Message----- From: Valerie L Cundy To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, September 02, 1998 8:11 PM Subject: Where is everyone????? >Hello All, > >I've had a few messages wondering why there has been no activity on the >list lately.....I don't really know why things have slowed down so much >unless it's just getting things back in routine as school has started and >vacations are winding down. I myself have taken a full time job this >last week and haven't had a lot of free time. I do intend to stay active >on the list as we get going again, any suggestions from anyone on a good >place to start? >Does anyone have any areas of there line they need help with? Does anyone >have any good source information they are willing to post to the list? >Come on ya'll....don't be shy, after all...we're all family :) > >Would love to hear from each of you with your thoughts and suggestions. > >Valerie **************************************************************** JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 86 Today's Topics: #1 Lyons in Abbeville, La [Jan Craven ] #2 Correction [Jan Craven ] #3 Lyons connection [Maude Ann Gilmore To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980913080118.008d0d60@mailhost.iamerica.net> Subject: Lyons in Abbeville, La Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I folks. I am bogged down in another aspect of my life right now, Can anyone help this cousin of ours? I would appreciate it and I know she would too! Thanks Jan >Return-Path: >X-Sender: mag42@mail.airmail.net >Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 21:26:45 -0500 >To: jcraven@iamerica.net >From: Maude Ann Gilmore >Subject: Lyons in Abbeville, La > >Hi--I've come across your name in several places on the internet while >researching my family. I'm a beginner so I hope I don't offend. My >great-grandmother was Lucinda Reeves Lyons White, daughter of Michael Lyons >and Mary Hayes Lyons. As I'm sure you know, Michael Lyons was the son of >John and Ana (Nancy, Anne) >Ahart Lyons. I was wondering if, in all of your research, you have come >across the date of Lucinda's death or where she is buried. I know she was >still alive in 1900 as I found her in the Vermilion census for that year. >Can you tell me the best way to find the information I'm trying to find? >I'm planning a trip to Abbeville, but won't be able to get there until >after the first of the year. > >Thanks! > >Maude Ann Gilmore > > > >________________ >Maude Ann Gilmore >mag42@airmail.net >________________ > > ______________________________X-Message: #2 Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 08:18:04 -0600 From: Jan Craven To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980913081804.008f7140@mailhost.iamerica.net> Subject: Correction Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Return-Path: >X-Sender: mag42@mail.airmail.net >Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 23:22:03 -0500 >To: jcraven@iamerica.net >From: Maude Ann Gilmore >Subject: Correction > >OOPS--I must have had a senior-moment. I left out a complete generation. >Lucinda Lyons is actually the daughter of Aborn Lyons and Elizabeth Ann >Reeves. >So sorry. > >Maude Ann Gilmore > > >________________ >Maude Ann Gilmore >mag42@airmail.net >________________ > > ______________________________X-Message: #3 Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 21:45:00 -0500 From: Maude Ann Gilmore To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: Subject: Lyons connection Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" My name is Maude Ann Gilmore nee Blessen and I'm connected to the Lyons-- John Lyons Sr and Ana (Nancy, Anne) Ahart Michael Lyons and Mary Hayes Aborn Lyons and Elizabeth Ann Reeves Lucinda Reeves Lyons and William Dee Hardman White Elizabeth Fanny White and Walter Clifton Bier ***************************************************************************** JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 87 Today's Topics: #1 Masonic Cemetery in Abbeville [Maude Ann Gilmore To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: Subject: Masonic Cemetery in Abbeville Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In reading an archived digest, I came across a message from Lynn King stating that she has a list of names from the Masonic Cemetery. I am interested in the list since I am trying to find the names of Lucinda Reeves Lyons White's six children who died young. According to family records, all of them are buried in the old Masonic Cemetery in Abbeville. I may have identified three of the six: Joseph, Maggie, and Nannie. If the list is still available, could you contact me, please. Thanks! Maude Ann ______________________________X-Message: #2 Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 22:18:58 -0500 From: "Lynn & Bill King" To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <008b01bde057$982ceea0$24e290d1@default> Subject: Re: Masonic Cemetery in Abbeville Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maude Ann Gilmore - >From what I understand, there is more than one Masonic Cemetery in Abbeville. Seems there is also an 'old' Masonic Cemetery. I have a three-page cemetery list, however, the only Lyons on it are Elizabeth A. Lyons, born 16 October 1823, died 01 November 1882 and Mrs. David Merriman Lyons. If you will give me your mailing address, I'd be happy to make a copy and send it to you. There are many Whites on this listing and I will be glad to list names, then give other info to anyone who is interested. Lynn Bagley King Houston ______________________________X-Message: #3 Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 22:47:41 -0500 From: "Lynn & Bill King" To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <009101bde05b$992c3960$24e290d1@default> Subject: Children of Lucinda Lyons White Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maude - Sorry, I only read your first inquiry regarding Lucinda Reeves Lyons. After I sent the previous message, I read your second inquiry. Here are the Whites listed: Maggie L. White, - "Maggie L./Dau. of Dr. W.D. & L.R. White/ Born Nov. 23, 1868/Died Nov. 27, 1870/ It was an angel that visited the/green earth and took the flower away." White, Althea, born ________died ___________ White, John Calhoun White, George H. White, Helen Fieta White, Joseph A., "Son of Dr. w.D. & L.R. White/born Nov. 10, 1866, died 26 Nov 1870" White, Maggie May White, Nannie R., Daut. of Dr. W. D. & L. R. White/Born Dec 1, 1879, died/ Sept 9, 1884 White, Walter E., /Son of Dr. W. D. & L.R. White/ Born Aug 28, 1886/ Died Nov 8, 1886 White, Willie B., Son of Dr. W.D. & L.R. White/ Born Oct 22, 1864/Died Augu 21, 1868/ To (sic) good for earth/ God called him home" Looks as if these are your Joseph, Maggie & Nannie, plus two more !! Lynn ______________________________X-Message: #4 Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 23:03:20 -0500 From: Maude Ann Gilmore To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: Subject: Children of Lucinda Lyons White Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks so much for the info from the Masonic Cemetery in Abbeville. Do you have a street address for the cemetery or directions on how to get there? Someone told me it was near the rice mill. Is there only one mill in Abbeville? You mentioned another Masonic cemetery--is it a new one with more recent burials? Cousins and I are planning a trip to Abbeville after the first of the year and I'd like to take pictures for my family-history-scrapbook. Thanks again! Maude Ann ________________ Maude Ann Gilmore mag42@airmail.net ________________ ______________________________X-Message: #5 Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 00:15:05 -0500 From: "Lynn & Bill King" To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <016501bde067$cdfff940$24e290d1@default> Subject: Re: Children of Lucinda Lyons White Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maude Ann - Have not been to the cemetery, but have been told it is on Main Street near the railroad tracks. Established about 1870, and the last burial was in 1954, but very few after the beginning of the 20th century. Was abandoned, but a group of citizens got together to restore and maintain it. Also referred to as the Protestant Cemetery. As to the other Masonic Cemetery, I have no knowledge. Perhaps you could check with the Vermilion Historical Society -- someone there may have some information. There is a partial list of cemeteries on the Vermilion webpage, but Masonic is not listed there. Lynn