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This should highlight the item that you indicated in "find what" every place it appears in the report. You must continue to click on FIND NEXT till you reach the end of the report to see all of the locations of the item indicated. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 58 Today's Topics: #1 Re: Elizabeth Lyons, d/o Michael L ["Shirley Smith" ] #3 Re: Elizabeth Lyons, d/o Michael L [VCundy@aol.com] #4 Re: Elizabeth/Ellen ????? [LV Hayes To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <000301befa40$da3f8740$7c38bfcf@default> Subject: Re: Elizabeth Lyons, d/o Michael Lyons & Mary Hayes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Those Hebert books are ALL for sale!!! And, Fr. Hebert is in the process of having them put on c.d.s to run about $350-$395, something along those lines, which is far less expensive than the books @$35-$45 per. If you're interested, we have an address for him and you can write for more info. You never know how far behind he will run on a scheduled date, however! Still a great set of books, tho. Shirley -----Original Message----- From: VCundy@aol.com To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 10:49 AM Subject: Re: Elizabeth Lyons, d/o Michael Lyons & Mary Hayes >THANK YOU!!!!!! Wish I had a copy of those Hebert books :( >Valerie > >In a message dated 9/8/99 11:15:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >jcraven@usunwired.net writes: > ><< > In Hebert Vol 1-a there is > > Edward Merriman (John - of England & Mary Berwick - > of this parish) b. abot 18 Sept. 1800, bt. 19 Oct 1800. Pats: Edward > MERRIMAN & Elizabeth PELLINGTON - of England; Mats: Thomas BERWICK of South > Carolina & Eleonor > WALES - of Ireland; Spons: Michael CONNOR & Victoire PRIMAU, his wife. > Continuing > the same Mission (Vermillion) at Nicolas ROSSEAU. Fr. Michel Bernard >BARRIERE > (SM Ch: v.5, #294 > > Then in vol 2B there is the marriage Opel.Ct Hse #26 but NO parents listed. >>> > > ______________________________X-Message: #2 Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 21:29:22 -0500 From: Mike Gil To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <37D71B81.B621C7E5@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Elizabeth Lyons, d/o Michael Lyons & Mary Hayes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I may be mistaking but I have Michael & Mary having 11 children; 1) Elizabeth (b)1802 (m) Edward Merriman 2) Frances "Fanny" (b) 1801 (m) William Prather Jr.* 3) Gabriel "Abel" (b) 1806 (m) Mary Anne Druzilla Merriman 4) Sarah "Sally" (b) 1808 (m) Richard West 5) Nancy Ann (b) 1810 (m) John Bryan 6) Abram "Aborn" (b)1812 (m) Elizabeth Anne Reeves 7) Bosman (b) 1815 (m) Melanie Nunez 8) Isaac (b) 1817 (m) Mary (Surname Unknown) 9) Solomon (b) 1819 10) Benjamin (b) 1824 (m) Amanda Lyons 11) Martha (b) 1824 (m) Johnson Moss * Frances "Fanny" Lyons & William Prather Jr had 13 children; Edwin, DORIS, Lyons, Anderson, William, Charles, Mary, Ellen, Imogene, Virgil, Emaline, Sara & Jasper Prather. You listed Doris is being the child of Elizabeth Lyons & Edward Merriman. Please inform me if I am incorrect on this matter. Anne Galloway Gil Harvey, LA VCundy@aol.com wrote: > Elizabeth Lyons, born 20 Nov 1802. died 7 Apr 1832, married 18 June 1822 > Edward Merriman. One child....Doris Prather??? > > Does anyone have more on this Elizabeth and her family? Did they have more > children? Who were Edwards parents? Anyone have dates on him? > > Thanks for your help! > > Valerie ______________________________X-Message: #3 Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 23:15:12 EDT From: VCundy@aol.com To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8986969d.25088040@aol.com> Subject: Re: Elizabeth Lyons, d/o Michael Lyons & Mary Hayes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gosh I love this list! Thanks Anne.....it would appear that I had Doris connected to two sets of parents, that would make a little more sense as to the "Prather" confusion under Elizabeth & Edward Merriman. I have everything else as you stated in my files. Don't rely on my word though, you can see how crazy my files can be. Are there any children for Elizabeth & Edward Merriman? Does anyone have his parents? Valerie ______________________________X-Message: #4 Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 05:42:23 -0400 From: LV Hayes To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19990909054223.007f2750@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: Elizabeth/Ellen ????? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 20:41:26 -0700 >From: "CR_AUSTIN" > >Ellen Prater was the daughter of William Prater and Elizabeth Francoise >(Fanny) Lyons. Fanny Lyons was the daughter of Michael Lyons and Marie >Hayes. > >The children of Ellen Prater and Gabriel "Uncle Bud" Robertson were: > >1. Ellen Virginia, 29 Nov 1854 - 19 Jul 1941, m. Thomas J. Robinson Carol, have you noticed the following entries in Jan's Big Woods Cemetery listing (online)? ROBERTSON, Ellen V. 1855 - 1941 ROBINSON, F. V. 29 Nov 1854 - 19 Jly 1911 Headstone w/T. J. ROBINSON ROBINSON, T. J. 31 Aug 1850 - 19 Feb 1931 Headstone w/ F. V. ROBINSON I've been assuming that Ellen V. is Ellen Virginia and that she was never married. But the dates you cite for Ellen Virginia are obviously those of F.V. Robinson, so a number of questions arise, e.g. are Ellen V. and F.V. the same person and if so, why 2 entries (and presumably 2 graves)? If not, is F.V. another wife of Thomas J.? >9. Zorida, Mar 1869 - 30 Mar 1930, m. James K. Perkins, Jr. Was James a son of James K. "Jack" Perkins Sr and Anna Delphine Escoubas? James K. Sr and son James K. Jr are both buried in the Rigmaiden Cemetery, but Zorida is not on the listing for this cemetery. LV ______________________________X-Message: #5 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:59:44 EDT From: VCundy@aol.com To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <3a9e6ec.25091750@aol.com> Subject: Children of Tabitha Lyons & Dosite Broussard Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone know who the children of Tabitha Lyons & Dosite Broussard? Were they: Dorise/Doris Garusa/Jurushia Raymond/Raymond C Delma/Thelma Delphine Lester? Thanks for your help. Valerie ______________________________X-Message: #6 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 07:23:09 -0700 From: "CR_AUSTIN" To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <199909091412.KAA5607184@pimout3-int.prodigy.net> Subject: Re: Elizabeth/Ellen ????? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The other Robinson grave is a mystery to me. All the Prater genealogy says is that Ellen and Thomas are buried in Big Woods Cemetery. It doesn't say anything about another wife. About Zorida, James K. Perkins Jr. was the son of James K. Perkins Sr. and Delphine Escoubas, as you said. After Zorida's death, he married her niece, Edna L. Robinson Granger. James Perkins Jr. is buried next to his first wife, Frances Evelyn Pugh. The book doesn't say where Zorida is buried, but they lived in DeQuincy where he owned a store. Perhaps she is buried there. I don't know where DeQuincy is, exactly. Zorida and James had no children, although he had children with his other wife. Carol Austin ______________________________X-Message: #7 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:33:15 EDT From: VCundy@aol.com To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: Subject: Big Woods Cemetery Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know who these people belong to? Mandana Lyons, wife of Wilson E Whatley / Nov 13, 1857 / June 15, 1937 Infant of Mrs. & Mrs. R.C. Lyons / Sept 19, 1913 / Feb 12, 1914 Opal Lyons wife of J Palm Field / Mar 6, 1904 / Jan 24, 1951 Carlton Russell Lyons / Dec 4 , 1901 / Feb 25, 1880 J. C. Puckett, Jr. / Nov 24, 1917 / Feb 12, 1918 Martha Lyons / wife of Henry Berry / July , 1847 / Jun 15, 1909 Martha Jane Fancher / wife of Samuel A Fairchild / Feb 3 1873 / Apr 15, 1955 Minerva Perkins Lyons / Dec 12, 1872 / Mar 2, 1936\ A Lucius Lyons / Louisiana SUC reserve / Aug 20, 1907 / May 26, 1948 Robert Benson Lyons / Nov 13, 1863 / Sept 4, 1867 Thanks Valerie ______________________________X-Message: #8 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:40:07 -0400 From: "Lyons, L. Neal x9016" To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <199909091443.HAA10522@bl-3.rootsweb.com> Subject: RE: Children of Tabitha Lyons & Dosite Broussard Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" This is my line ( my great-grandparents ). Will respond later. -----Original Message----- From: VCundy@aol.com [mailto:VCundy@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 9:00 AM To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Children of Tabitha Lyons & Dosite Broussard Anyone know who the children of Tabitha Lyons & Dosite Broussard? Were they: Dorise/Doris Garusa/Jurushia Raymond/Raymond C Delma/Thelma Delphine Lester? Thanks for your help. Valerie JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 59 Today's Topics: #1 Re: "Family of William Prater and [RCulbe6428@aol.com] #2 Re: "Family of William Prater and ["CR_AUSTIN" ] #8 Re: Big Woods Cemetery [VCundy@aol.com] #9 Re: Big Woods Cemetery [Jan Craven ] #10 Re: Big Woods Cemetery [Mike Gil ] #11 Re: Big Woods Cemetery [Mike Gil ] #12 Re: Big Woods Cemetery [Jan Craven ] ______________________________X-Message: #1 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:24:51 EDT From: RCulbe6428@aol.com To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <73757dd4.25093953@aol.com> Subject: Re: "Family of William Prater and Elizabeth Francois Lyons" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Carol: You quoted a source, the "Family of William Prater and Elizabeth Francois Lyons" by Lynn DeMary. Where could I obtain a copy of that? Is it in a library or does it consist of only a few pages? How many generations does it cover? Richard D. Culbertson 6428 Arthur Drive Fort Worth, Texas 76134 ______________________________X-Message: #2 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:51:59 -0700 From: "CR_AUSTIN" To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <199909091741.NAA19920@pimout5-int.prodigy.net> Subject: Re: "Family of William Prater and Elizabeth Francois Lyons" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Richard: The Family of William Prater and Elizabeth Francois Lyons is available from Lynn DeMary, 430 East Elgie, Beaumont, TX 77705-2543, at least it was. I'm not sure there are any left. He's in the process of updating it and welcomes any input. It was originally published in July 1997 and covers all the children as far down as there is any information on them. There is very little information on a few, such as Doris, Lyons, Anderson, William Hampton, Charles, Mary, Hermogen and Virgil. However the information on Edwin, Ellen, Mary Emaline and Jasper Newton is extensive. He told me recently that he had received a lot of information on one of the above lines that originally was quite sparse. I sent him much much more on Mary Emaline's family. So the next edition will be more complete. Richard, we corresponded some time ago on this family, but I've forgotten which specific family you're from. Can you refresh my memory? Carol Austin ______________________________X-Message: #3 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:37:16 -0500 From: "Stuart MacKillican" To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <001701befaf2$580b0760$d171c0d0@pnxcusto> Subject: Re: Elizabeth/Ellen ????? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Carol, You mentioned James K. Perkins,Jr. and his first wife had children.do you have names?Zorida may be bur. in Rigmaiden Cem. unmarked.I don't remember exactly where James Jr. marker is or if there is a grave next to it.FYI DeQuincy is about 20 Mi. N of Sulpher.Rigmaiden Cem. is about 5 mi.S. of DeQuincy.Perkins Cem. is across the road(not Perkins Chapel) and McFarland Cem. is next to Rigmaiden. Stuart ----- Original Message ----- From: CR_AUSTIN To: Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 9:23 AM Subject: Re: Elizabeth/Ellen ????? > The other Robinson grave is a mystery to me. All the Prater genealogy says > is that Ellen and Thomas are buried in Big Woods Cemetery. It doesn't say > anything about another wife. > > About Zorida, James K. Perkins Jr. was the son of James K. Perkins Sr. and > Delphine Escoubas, as you said. After Zorida's death, he married her niece, > Edna L. Robinson Granger. James Perkins Jr. is buried next to his first > wife, Frances Evelyn Pugh. The book doesn't say where Zorida is buried, but > they lived in DeQuincy where he owned a store. Perhaps she is buried there. > I don't know where DeQuincy is, exactly. Zorida and James had no children, > although he had children with his other wife. > Carol Austin > ______________________________X-Message: #4 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:23:51 -0700 From: "CR_AUSTIN" To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <199909091913.PAA644850@pimout2-int.prodigy.net> Subject: Re: Elizabeth/Ellen ????? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stuart: James Perkins Jr.'s children, probably as listed in his obituary, were Joyce (Mrs. D.M.) Bloodsworth of Douglas, AZ, and Orvil D. Perkins of Englewood, CA (probably means Inglewood.) It doesn't state which wife was their mother, but probably the first wife Frances Evelyn Pugh. Thanks for the information on DeQuincy and Rigmaiden Cem. Carol Austin ______________________________X-Message: #5 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 15:36:46 EDT From: ChezMary@aol.com To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: Subject: Re: Big Woods Cemetery Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i would assume that JC Puckett was the infant brother to Mr Sam Puckett (deceased) of Lake Charles. their parents lived in Vinton at one time. ______________________________X-Message: #6 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 15:42:05 EDT From: ChezMary@aol.com To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: Subject: Re: Elizabeth/Ellen ????? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brien Perkins---------------------if you are reading these-help us!!!!!!!!!!!! mary dee ______________________________X-Message: #7 Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 18:19:11 -0600 From: Jan Craven To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990909181911.0072a368@mail.usunwired.net> Subject: Re: Big Woods Cemetery Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:33 AM 9/9/1999 EDT, you wrote: >Does anyone know who these people belong to? > >Mandana Lyons, wife of Wilson E Whatley / Nov 13, 1857 / June 15, 1937 I suspect that she was the d/o Augustus Lyons and Mary Prater. Lynn DeMary gave me some data a couple of weeks ago, but I haven't had time to go through it. Having to work about half a day every day for hubby til he hires someone else is really cramping my hobby! ;o) He may have this in his data. > >Infant of Mrs. & Mrs. R.C. Lyons / Sept 19, 1913 / Feb 12, 1914 > >Opal Lyons wife of J Palm Field / Mar 6, 1904 / Jan 24, 1951 Is she the d/o Raymond C. Lyons and Delma Broussard? I think I id'd her after I did the notes for BW and never have updated that. If someone can confirm that, I'll update it. > >Carlton Russell Lyons / Dec 4 , 1901 / Feb 25, 1880 > >J. C. Puckett, Jr. / Nov 24, 1917 / Feb 12, 1918 I am sure Mary Dee is right on that, but I can call Margaret Welsh.. Used to be Lowenthal and ask her. Her mother was a Puckett from this family. > >Martha Lyons / wife of Henry Berry / July , 1847 / Jun 15, 1909 > >Martha Jane Fancher / wife of Samuel A Fairchild / Feb 3 1873 / Apr 15, 1955 I think she was d/o Levicy Perkins and James W. Fancher. I just don't have any proof or confirmation. > >Minerva Perkins Lyons / Dec 12, 1872 / Mar 2, 1936 I think she was w/o Dr. Augustus L. Lyons and d/o Elias A. Perkins and JoAnna Broussard. > >A Lucius Lyons / Louisiana SUC reserve / Aug 20, 1907 / May 26, 1948 He is prob. son of Dr. Samuel Madison Lyons and Adella Broussard. I don't have a wife for him. > >Robert Benson Lyons / Nov 13, 1863 / Sept 4, 1867 OK, tell me if I am wrong. Told someone the other day that there were only two things in my database that I was comfortable with them being right.....My marriage date and the birth of daughter, Ginger....the rest was debatable. Jan ______________________________X-Message: #8 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 20:21:54 EDT From: VCundy@aol.com To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <109e0d9b.2509a922@aol.com> Subject: Re: Big Woods Cemetery Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I for one am glad your only working part-time.....Tell Bruce I REALLY appreciate him sharing you with us! Thanks for the help! Valerie ______________________________X-Message: #9 Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 20:02:04 -0600 From: Jan Craven To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990909200204.00732f44@mail.usunwired.net> Subject: Re: Big Woods Cemetery Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'll tell him... I WANNA BE FREE!!! Jan At 08:21 PM 9/9/1999 EDT, you wrote: >I for one am glad your only working part-time.....Tell Bruce I REALLY >appreciate him sharing you with us! > > >Thanks for the help! >Valerie > > > ______________________________X-Message: #10 Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 20:24:21 -0500 From: Mike Gil To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <37D85DC5.8B9A3F92@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Big Woods Cemetery Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 1) OPAL LYONS w/o J. Palm Field (d/o Raymond C. Lyons & Thelma Broussard) 2) CARLTON LYONS (s/o Raymond C. Lyons & Thelma Broussard) ~~~ correction~~~ on death date for Carlton Lyons (your had 1880) 2/27/1936 3) MINERVA PERKINS LYONS (w/o A.E.Lyons, d/o Elias A. Perkins & Joanna Broussard) 4) A. LUCIUS LYONS (s/o Samuel Madison "Mady" Lyons & Adella Broussard) Hope this helps!! Anne Galloway Gil Harvey, LA VCundy@aol.com wrote: > Does anyone know who these people belong to? > > Mandana Lyons, wife of Wilson E Whatley / Nov 13, 1857 / June 15, 1937 > > Infant of Mrs. & Mrs. R.C. Lyons / Sept 19, 1913 / Feb 12, 1914 > > Opal Lyons wife of J Palm Field / Mar 6, 1904 / Jan 24, 1951 > > Carlton Russell Lyons / Dec 4 , 1901 / Feb 25, 1880 > > J. C. Puckett, Jr. / Nov 24, 1917 / Feb 12, 1918 > > Martha Lyons / wife of Henry Berry / July , 1847 / Jun 15, 1909 > > Martha Jane Fancher / wife of Samuel A Fairchild / Feb 3 1873 / Apr 15, 1955 > > Minerva Perkins Lyons / Dec 12, 1872 / Mar 2, 1936\ > > A Lucius Lyons / Louisiana SUC reserve / Aug 20, 1907 / May 26, 1948 > > Robert Benson Lyons / Nov 13, 1863 / Sept 4, 1867 > > Thanks > > Valerie ______________________________X-Message: #11 Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 20:31:35 -0500 From: Mike Gil To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <37D85F77.47C1E6FA@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Big Woods Cemetery Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Raymond C. Lyons & Thelma Broussard > > Infant of Mrs. & Mrs. R.C. Lyons / Sept 19, 1913 / Feb 12, 1914 ______________________________X-Message: #12 Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 20:49:51 -0600 From: Jan Craven To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990909204951.00734378@mail.usunwired.net> Subject: Re: Big Woods Cemetery Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Anne. Thelma Broussard's stone says DELMA. Why? Thanks for the info. I'll give you credits in the listing. Jan At 08:24 PM 9/9/1999 -0500, you wrote: >1) OPAL LYONS w/o J. Palm Field (d/o Raymond C. Lyons & Thelma Broussard) >2) CARLTON LYONS (s/o Raymond C. Lyons & Thelma Broussard) > ~~~ correction~~~ on death date for Carlton Lyons (your had 1880) 2/27/1936 > >3) MINERVA PERKINS LYONS (w/o A.E.Lyons, d/o Elias A. Perkins & Joanna >Broussard) >4) A. LUCIUS LYONS (s/o Samuel Madison "Mady" Lyons & Adella Broussard) > >Hope this helps!! > >Anne Galloway Gil >Harvey, LA > >VCundy@aol.com wrote: > >> Does anyone know who these people belong to? >> >> Mandana Lyons, wife of Wilson E Whatley / Nov 13, 1857 / June 15, 1937 >> >> Infant of Mrs. & Mrs. R.C. Lyons / Sept 19, 1913 / Feb 12, 1914 >> >> Opal Lyons wife of J Palm Field / Mar 6, 1904 / Jan 24, 1951 >> >> Carlton Russell Lyons / Dec 4 , 1901 / Feb 25, 1880 >> >> J. C. Puckett, Jr. / Nov 24, 1917 / Feb 12, 1918 >> >> Martha Lyons / wife of Henry Berry / July , 1847 / Jun 15, 1909 >> >> Martha Jane Fancher / wife of Samuel A Fairchild / Feb 3 1873 / Apr 15, 1955 >> >> Minerva Perkins Lyons / Dec 12, 1872 / Mar 2, 1936\ >> >> A Lucius Lyons / Louisiana SUC reserve / Aug 20, 1907 / May 26, 1948 >> >> Robert Benson Lyons / Nov 13, 1863 / Sept 4, 1867 >> >> Thanks >> >> Valerie > >JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 60 Today's Topics: #1 RE: Big Woods Cemetery ["Lyons, L. Neal x9016" ] #6 RE: Children of Tabitha Lyons & Do [Jan Craven ] #7 JohnLyons List Update Sept 10, 199 [VCundy@aol.com] ______________________________X-Message: #1 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:53:13 -0400 From: "Lyons, L. Neal x9016" To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <199909101257.FAA25453@bl-3.rootsweb.com> Subject: RE: Big Woods Cemetery Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Added my comments below. -----Original Message----- From: VCundy@aol.com [mailto:VCundy@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 9:33 AM To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Big Woods Cemetery Does anyone know who these people belong to? Mandana Lyons, wife of Wilson E Whatley / Nov 13, 1857 / June 15, 1937 Infant of Mrs. & Mrs. R.C. Lyons / Sept 19, 1913 / Feb 12, 1914 Child of Raymond C. LYONS and Delma BROUSSARD Opal Lyons wife of J Palm Field / Mar 6, 1904 / Jan 24, 1951 Daughter of Raymond C. LYONS and Delma BROUSSARD Carlton Russell Lyons / Dec 4 , 1901 / Feb 25, 1880 Feb. 26, 1936 Son of Raymond C. LYONS and Delma BROUSSARD J. C. Puckett, Jr. / Nov 24, 1917 / Feb 12, 1918 Since a Jr., assume this is son of J.C. PUCKETT and Daisy LYONS ; Buried near Samuel R. LYONS and Tabitha E. LYONS, who were Daisy's parents, so makes sense. Martha Lyons / wife of Henry Berry / July , 1847 / Jun 15, 1909 Martha Jane Fancher / wife of Samuel A Fairchild / Feb 3 1873 / Apr 15, 1955 Minerva Perkins Lyons / Dec 12, 1872 / Mar 2, 1936\ A Lucius Lyons / Louisiana SUC reserve / Aug 20, 1907 / May 26, 1948 Son of Dr. Samuel M. LYONS and Dellie LYONS ( per Succession for Samuel M. LYONS ) Robert Benson Lyons / Nov 13, 1863 / Sept 4, 1867 Suspect son of O.F. and Tabitha LYONS ( no proof ) ; Buried with children of H.W. JOHNSON and Margaret LYONS, ( since Margaret was daughter of O.F. and Tabitha LYONS ; believe I got this from a sucession ) Thanks Valerie ______________________________X-Message: #2 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:00:08 EDT From: VCundy@aol.com To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: Subject: Re: Big Woods Cemetery Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for your help ! Valerie ______________________________X-Message: #3 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:05:49 -0400 From: "Lyons, L. Neal x9016" To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <199909101313.GAA26424@bl-3.rootsweb.com> Subject: RE: Children of Tabitha Lyons & Dosite Broussard Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" CHILDREN OF Tabitha LYONS and Dosite BROUSSARD : Dorease b. JAN 15, 1873 d. FEB 13, 1896 1st wife of Raymond C. LYONS Jurusia b. NOV 25, 1874 d. JAN 7, 1895 Raymond C. b. DEC 29, 1877 d. JUL 18, 1957 m. Estella PERRY Delma b. FEB 25, 1880 d. JAN 19, 1952 2nd wife of Raymond C. LYONS Hattie b. APR 4, 1882 d. JAN 25, 1984 m. James E. WEBER ( WEBRE ) J. Larkin b. SEP 27, 1884 d. AUG 28, 1966 No married. Delphine b. JUN 28, 1887 d. OCT 9, 1888 Lester E. b. OCT 23, 1892 d. JUL 23, 1955 M1. Dora YOUNG M2. Edith Litteral All are buried at Bigwoods Cemetary. Raymond C. LYONS and Dorease BROUSSARD are my grandparents. -----Original Message----- From: VCundy@aol.com [mailto:VCundy@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 9:00 AM To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Children of Tabitha Lyons & Dosite Broussard Anyone know who the children of Tabitha Lyons & Dosite Broussard? Were they: Dorise/Doris Garusa/Jurushia Raymond/Raymond C Delma/Thelma Delphine Lester? Thanks for your help. Valerie ______________________________X-Message: #4 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:39:49 EDT From: VCundy@aol.com To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4fc4086a.250a6425@aol.com> Subject: Re: Children of Tabitha Lyons & Dosite Broussard Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Neal.....I appreciate your help. Valerie ______________________________X-Message: #5 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:42:08 -0600 From: Jan Craven To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990910104208.0073a680@mail.usunwired.net> Subject: RE: Children of Tabitha Lyons & Dosite Broussard Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Neal. I don't find Lester in the BW listing. He is possibly the L LYONS with no dates????? Do you know if that is the case? Jan At 09:05 AM 9/10/1999 -0400, you wrote: >CHILDREN OF Tabitha LYONS and Dosite BROUSSARD : > >Dorease b. JAN 15, 1873 d. FEB 13, 1896 >1st wife of Raymond C. LYONS > >Jurusia b. NOV 25, 1874 d. JAN 7, 1895 > >Raymond C. b. DEC 29, 1877 d. JUL 18, 1957 >m. Estella PERRY > >Delma b. FEB 25, 1880 d. JAN 19, 1952 >2nd wife of Raymond C. LYONS > >Hattie b. APR 4, 1882 d. JAN 25, 1984 >m. James E. WEBER ( WEBRE ) > >J. Larkin b. SEP 27, 1884 d. AUG 28, 1966 >No married. > >Delphine b. JUN 28, 1887 d. OCT 9, 1888 > >Lester E. b. OCT 23, 1892 d. JUL 23, 1955 >M1. Dora YOUNG >M2. Edith Litteral > >All are buried at Bigwoods Cemetary. > >Raymond C. LYONS and Dorease BROUSSARD are my grandparents. > > -----Original Message----- > From: VCundy@aol.com >[mailto:VCundy@aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 9:00 AM > To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Children of Tabitha Lyons & >Dosite Broussard > > Anyone know who the children of Tabitha >Lyons & Dosite > Broussard? > Were they: > Dorise/Doris > Garusa/Jurushia > Raymond/Raymond C > Delma/Thelma > Delphine > Lester? > > Thanks for your help. > Valerie > > > > ______________________________X-Message: #6 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:45:49 -0600 From: Jan Craven To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990910104549.0073a680@mail.usunwired.net> Subject: RE: Children of Tabitha Lyons & Dosite Broussard Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" AUGH..... Lester is a BROUSSARD! DUMMY! Not a LYONS! Jan At 09:05 AM 9/10/1999 -0400, you wrote: >CHILDREN OF Tabitha LYONS and Dosite BROUSSARD : > >Dorease b. JAN 15, 1873 d. FEB 13, 1896 >1st wife of Raymond C. LYONS > >Jurusia b. NOV 25, 1874 d. JAN 7, 1895 > >Raymond C. b. DEC 29, 1877 d. JUL 18, 1957 >m. Estella PERRY > >Delma b. FEB 25, 1880 d. JAN 19, 1952 >2nd wife of Raymond C. LYONS > >Hattie b. APR 4, 1882 d. JAN 25, 1984 >m. James E. WEBER ( WEBRE ) > >J. Larkin b. SEP 27, 1884 d. AUG 28, 1966 >No married. > >Delphine b. JUN 28, 1887 d. OCT 9, 1888 > >Lester E. b. OCT 23, 1892 d. JUL 23, 1955 >M1. Dora YOUNG >M2. Edith Litteral > >All are buried at Bigwoods Cemetary. > >Raymond C. LYONS and Dorease BROUSSARD are my grandparents. > > -----Original Message----- > From: VCundy@aol.com >[mailto:VCundy@aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 9:00 AM > To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Children of Tabitha Lyons & >Dosite Broussard > > Anyone know who the children of Tabitha >Lyons & Dosite > Broussard? > Were they: > Dorise/Doris > Garusa/Jurushia > Raymond/Raymond C > Delma/Thelma > Delphine > Lester? > > Thanks for your help. > Valerie > > > > ______________________________X-Message: #7 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 19:31:31 EDT From: VCundy@aol.com To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8e0b4aa.250aeed3@aol.com> Subject: JohnLyons List Update Sept 10, 1999 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just a reminder to visit our John Lyons web site located at : http://members.home.net/davidl2/geneal/files/lyons_main.htm The 30 active members of the JOHNLYONS list as of September 10, 1999. are as follows: 1. Valerie Cundy- Topeka, KANSAS 2. Jan Craven-Lake Charles, LOUISIANA 3. Barbara Langham-Kilgore, TEXAS 4. David Lawrence 5. Lynn Bagley King-Houston,TEXAS 6. Ben Carroll-Pasadena,TEXAS 7. LV Hayes-Fayetteville, NORTH CAROLINA 8. Rosemary Carraway-Houston,TEXAS 9. Jo-Anne Arnaud 10. Ruby Dusek- Katy, TEXAS 11. Joy Moore-Karnack,TEXAS 12. Carol Austin-Garden Grove, CALIFORNIA 13. Lesylee Gautreaux- Orange,TEXAS 14. Michael Bradford-Ocala,FLORIDA 15. Nelda Stebbins- Ragley, LOUISIANA 16. Shirely Smith-Lake Charles,LOUISIANA 17. Mary Antee 18. Mary Dee Nicks-Phenix City, ALABAMA 19. Bill Hall-Beaumont,TEXAS 20. Stuart MacKillican-Orang,TEXAS 21. Maude Gilmore-Plano,TEXAS 22. Ken Dupuy-Vermilion Par.Historian of Maurice,LA 23. Anne Marie Galloway-Harvey,LOUISIANA 24. Richard D Culbertson-Fort Worth,TEXAS 25. Norman Ray Holden-Angleston,TEXAS 26. L. Neal Lyons-Temple,TEXAS 27. David Lyons-Sulphur, LOUISIANA 28. Richard Sirmon-Gueydan,LOUISIANA 29. PATTY W GRAVOIS, LOUISIANA 30. KATHY EARLY-Pasadena, TEXAS INACTIVE MEMBERS Mary Hammond -Tyler, TEXAS Mary Lane Jeremy Fountain Jennifer Anne Turner Laura Wright Wayne Linebarger Robert Broussard Betty Gaiennie Tim Lyons Harold Lawrence-Ocean Springs,MISSISSIPPI Sharon Shaw Riecke Baumann Rand Wagner-Lake Charles,LOUISIANA Mike Baumann Jimmy Lawrence Bryan Perkins Shannon Shaw Susan Shanley Michael Lyons WELCOME!!!! we invite you to post your connection to JOHN LYONS. We currently have descendants from 6 of the 7 children of John and Nancy. Still searching for descendants of Elizabeth! MICHAEL Valerie Cundy Jeremy Fountain Wayne Linebarger Tim Lyons Ruby Dusek Joy Moore Carol Austin Maude Gilmore Richard D Culbertson JOHN JR. Ben Carroll Mary Hammond Rose Carraway Barbara Langham Laura Wright Mary Lane Shirley Smith Bill Hall Stuart Mackillican Norman Ray Holden GABRIEL Sharon Shaw Shannon Shaw ELIZABETH SAMUEL Jennifer Turner Jo Anne Arnaud Betty Gaiennie Robert Broussard Susan Shanley L. Neal Lyons Richard Sirmon WILLIAM Jan Craven Laura Wright Mary Dee Nicks Lesylee Gautreaux Anne Marie Galloway David Lyons Kathy Early DAVID David Lawrence Lynn King Harold Lawrence Michael Bradford Mary Antee Jimmy Lawrence Rand Wagner Mike Baumann Riecke Baumann JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 61 Today's Topics: #1 Another Lyons Gone [Mike Gil ] ______________________________X-Message: #1 Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 14:58:36 -0500 From: Mike Gil To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <37DC05EC.8B3CC203@bellsouth.net> Subject: Another Lyons Gone Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone have any idea who Irving Luria Lyons Jr. belongs to? He died Sept. 1, 1999 and was in the paper for the last 2 days. This is how it reads; FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 10,1999 - The Times-Picayune LYONS Irving Luria Lyons Jr. (Nicky Luria), age 79 years, on Wednesday, September 1, 1999 at Touro Infirmary. Son of the late Elsa Von Meysenbug & Irving Lyons Sr. Father of Ilene Lyons, Sonia (Nonie) Louise Lyons, both of New Orleans, and Nila Haik Alexander of Ackworth, Georgia. Adoptive father of A.G. Lyons and step-father of Eugene Fransen, both of New Orleans. Brother of Dorethea Lyons Claverie of New Orleans and Evelyn Lyon Chaleron of Brevard, South Carolina. Also survived by 3 grandchildren. Relatives and friends of the family are invited to attend the Memorial Service at the BULTMAN FUNERAL HOME, 3338 St. Charles Ave., at Louisiana Ave. on Sunday afternoon, September 12, 1999 at 4:00 PM. Interment will be private. Friends may call on Sunday afternoon after 3:00 PM. In lieu of flowers, contributions may be made to Loyola University Music School, Attn. Mr. Robert Gross, 6363 St. Charles Ave., N.O., LA 70118. SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 11, 1999 - The Times-Picayune LYONS "Retired drug firm exec., pianist Irving Lyons Jr." Irving Luria Lyons Jr., a retired business owner and classic pianist, died Sept. 1, 1999 at Touro Infirmary. He was 79. Mr. Lyons was a lifelong resident of New Orleans. He was president of I.L. Lyons Co. Ltd., a local pharmaceutical firm, for many years. A gifted classical pianist, Mr. Lyons received a bachelor's degree in music from Loyola University in 1938 and continued his studies at Julliard School of Music in New York and at Chicago Music College. He played with the Minneapolis Symphony Orchestra and the New Orleans Civic Symphony. He graduated from Alcee Fortier Senior High School and served as a lieutenant in the Coat Guard during World War II. After the war, he began work in his family wholesale drug business. In 1952, he was named president of the company. Mr. Lyons was a member of the Southern Yacht Club and the American Pharmaceutical Association. Survivors include three daughters, Ilene Lyons, Sonia "Nonie" Louise Lyons, both of New Orleans, and Nila Haik Alexander of Ackworth, Georgia. Adoptive father of A.G. Lyons and step-father of Eugene Fransen, both of New Orleans. Brother of Dorethea Lyons Claverie of New Orleans and Evelyn Lyon Chaleron of Brevard, South Carolina. Also survived by 3 grandchildren. A memorial service will be held Sunday at 4 p.m. at Bultman Funeral Home, 3338 ST. Charles Ave. Burial will be private. Please let me know if anyone can identify him. Anne Galloway Gil Harvey, LA JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 62 Today's Topics: #1 Retraction [LV Hayes ] #3 WELCOME TO OUR NEWEST MEMBERS..... [VCundy@aol.com] #4 (no subject) [VCundy@aol.com] #5 Internet Message [FFWP26A@prodigy.com (MRS JO ANNE P] ______________________________X-Message: #1 Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 08:34:12 -0400 From: LV Hayes To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19990914083412.007fea00@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Retraction Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On 15 Aug 99, I stated in reply to a query by Jan that Elizabeth Cole, wife of William Lyons (son of John Lyons and Nancy Ann Ahart), was a daughter of Absalom Benjamin Cole and Mary Ann "Polly" Bilbo. That's how I had her listed in my gen database. At the time, I had forgotten that there was some controversy about Elizabeth's parentage and that I had discussed this matter with other correspondents in early 1998. This issue and those discussions were brought to mind when Valerie e-mailed me privately on 7 Sep 99 and pointed out that if Elizabeth was Absalom's and Mary Ann's daughter, then their son and Elizabeth's putative brother, John Roosevelt Cole, had married his niece, Susanna Charlotte Lyons, daughter of William and Elizabeth. After review of relevant sources and correspondence, I cannot find any substantive proof of Elizabeth's parentage, and accordingly I'm obliged to post a retraction of my statement that she was Absalom's and Mary Ann's daughter. I also offer my apologies to Jan and to anyone else whom that statement misled. As things stand now, the issue of John Roosevelt marrying his niece seems satisfactorily resolved. Susanna Charlotte was not Elizabeth's daughter, but rather the child of William Lyons and his second wife, Tabitha Harmon. Thus, John married at worse his step-niece and more likely no relative at all. The parentage of Elizabeth Cole remains, however, a mystery. I have yet to determine why I assigned her as a child of Absalom and Mary Ann in the first place, and I continue to search for the evidence that led to that conclusion. Some sources indicate that her name may actually have been Mary Elizabeth, and the possibility has been raised that she was not a Cole at all, but a widow of an as yet unidentified Cole. In any case, several researchers are pursuing the matter, and with any luck, we should eventually have an answer better than the one presently available. LV ______________________________X-Message: #2 Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 15:39:55 -0500 From: ELEANOR DAMEK To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <37DEB29B.6BCF@imsday.com> Subject: [Fwd: Returned mail: User unknown] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------508D4343118A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Subject: My Lyons Connection > Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:21:38 -0500 > From: ELEANOR DAMEK > Organization: OLIVER DAMEK FARMS > To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com > > Hello, > My name is Eleanor Polk Damek and I live in Dayton, Texas. > I really enjoy the Lyons List and think it is about time that > I send in the information on my connection with it as I do not > wat to be dropped from the list. > > John Lyons, Sr. and Anna (Nancy) Ahart > Michel Lyons and Mary (Polly) Hayes > Sarah (Sally) Lyons and Richard West > Elizabeth West and Arthur Joseph Gibson > Marie Virginia Gibson and Augustus Franklin (Gus) Stayton > Hill D. Stayton and Florian Etoile Bowers > Eleanor Florine Stayton and Samuel Thomas Polk > Eleanor Faye Polk and Oliver William (Sonny) Damek > > I appreciate all the information I have received from member of the > Lyons List and hope that I will be able to contribute some useful > information. > > Eleanor Damek > damek1@imsday.com or i675188@imsday.com --------------508D4343118A Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from localhost (localhost) by day1.imsday.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with internal id LAA04952; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:40:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:40:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Mail Delivery Subsystem Message-Id: <199909141640.LAA04952@day1.imsday.com> To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="LAA04952.937327255/day1.imsday.com" Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) This is a MIME-encapsulated message --LAA04952.937327255/day1.imsday.com The original message was received at Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:24:28 -0500 (CDT) from d2052192195.imsday.com [205.219.2.195] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to bl-3.rootsweb.com.: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 ... 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User unknown Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:40:55 -0500 (CDT) --LAA04952.937327255/day1.imsday.com Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Received: from pentium (d2052192195.imsday.com [205.219.2.195]) by day1.imsday.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA29851 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:24:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <37DE75FD.59B6@imsday.com> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:21:38 -0500 From: ELEANOR DAMEK Reply-To: i675188@imsday.com Organization: OLIVER DAMEK FARMS X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-KIT (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JOHNLYONS_L@rootsweb.com Subject: My Lyons Connection Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, My name is Eleanor Polk Damek and I live in Dayton, Texas. I really enjoy the Lyons List and think it is about time that I send in the information on my connection with it as I do not wat to be dropped from the list. John Lyons, Sr. and Anna (Nancy) Ahart Michel Lyons and Mary (Polly) Hayes Sarah (Sally) Lyons and Richard West Elizabeth West and Arthur Joseph Gibson Marie Virginia Gibson and Augustus Franklin (Gus) Stayton Hill D. Stayton and Florian Etoile Bowers Eleanor Florine Stayton and Samuel Thomas Polk Eleanor Faye Polk and Oliver William (Sonny) Damek I appreciate all the information I have received from member of the Lyons List and hope that I will be able to contribute some useful information. Eleanor Damek damek1@imsday.com or i675188@imsday.com --LAA04952.937327255/day1.imsday.com-- --------------508D4343118A-- ______________________________X-Message: #3 Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 17:53:28 EDT From: VCundy@aol.com To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <2e08bcd.25101dd8@aol.com> Subject: WELCOME TO OUR NEWEST MEMBERS.....Sept 14, 1999 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just a reminder to visit our John Lyons web site located at : http://members.home.net/davidl2/geneal/files/lyons_main.htm Members of the JOHNLYONS list as of September 14, 1999. are as follows: 31 and growing!!!!! 1. Valerie Cundy- Topeka, KANSAS 2. Jan Craven-Lake Charles, LOUISIANA 3. Barbara Langham-Kilgore, TEXAS 4. David Lawrence 5. Lynn Bagley King-Houston,TEXAS 6. Ben Carroll-Pasadena,TEXAS 7. LV Hayes-Fayetteville, NORTH CAROLINA 8. Rosemary Carraway-Houston,TEXAS 9. Jo-Anne Arnaud 10. Ruby Dusek- Katy, TEXAS 11. Joy Moore-Karnack,TEXAS 12. Carol Austin-Garden Grove, CALIFORNIA 13. Lesylee Gautreaux- Orange,TEXAS 14. Michael Bradford-Ocala,FLORIDA 15. Nelda Stebbins- Ragley, LOUISIANA 16. Shirely Smith-Lake Charles,LOUISIANA 17. Mary Antee 18. Mary Dee Nicks-Phenix City, ALABAMA 19. Bill Hall-Beaumont,TEXAS 20. Stuart MacKillican-Orang,TEXAS 21. Maude Gilmore-Plano,TEXAS 22. Ken Dupuy-Vermilion Par.Historian of Maurice,LA 23. Anne Marie Galloway-Harvey,LOUISIANA 24. Richard D Culbertson-Fort Worth,TEXAS 25. Norman Ray Holden-Angleston,TEXAS 26. L. Neal Lyons-Temple,TEXAS 27. David Lyons-Sulphur, LOUISIANA 28. Richard Sirmon-Gueydan,LOUISIANA 29. Patty W. Gravois, LOUISIANA 30. Kathy Early-Pasadena, TEXAS 31. ELEANOR DAMEK INACTIVE MEMBERS Mary Hammond -Tyler, TEXAS Mary Lane Jeremy Fountain Jennifer Anne Turner Laura Wright Wayne Linebarger Robert Broussard Betty Gaiennie Tim Lyons Harold Lawrence-Ocean Springs,MISSISSIPPI Sharon Shaw Riecke Baumann Rand Wagner-Lake Charles,LOUISIANA Mike Baumann Jimmy Lawrence Bryan Perkins Shannon Shaw Susan Shanley Michael Lyons WELCOME!!!! we invite you to post your connection to JOHN LYONS. We currently have descendants from 6 of the 7 children of John and Nancy. Still searching for descendants of Elizabeth! MICHAEL Valerie Cundy Jeremy Fountain Wayne Linebarger Tim Lyons Ruby Dusek Joy Moore Carol Austin Maude Gilmore Richard D Culbertson Eleanor Damek JOHN JR. Ben Carroll Mary Hammond Rose Carraway Barbara Langham Laura Wright Mary Lane Shirley Smith Bill Hall Stuart Mackillican Norman Ray Holden GABRIEL Sharon Shaw Shannon Shaw ELIZABETH SAMUEL Jennifer Turner Jo Anne Arnaud Betty Gaiennie Robert Broussard Susan Shanley L. Neal Lyons Richard Sirmon WILLIAM Jan Craven Laura Wright Mary Dee Nicks Lesylee Gautreaux Anne Marie Galloway David Lyons Kathy Early DAVID David Lawrence Lynn King Harold Lawrence Michael Bradford Mary Antee Jimmy Lawrence Rand Wagner Mike Baumann Riecke Baumann ______________________________X-Message: #4 Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 17:57:41 EDT From: VCundy@aol.com To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, My name is Eleanor Polk Damek and I live in Dayton, Texas. I really enjoy the Lyons List and think it is about time that I send in the information on my connection with it as I do not wat to be dropped from the list. John Lyons, Sr. and Anna (Nancy) Ahart Michel Lyons and Mary (Polly) Hayes Sarah (Sally) Lyons and Richard West Elizabeth West and Arthur Joseph Gibson Marie Virginia Gibson and Augustus Franklin (Gus) Stayton Hill D. Stayton and Florian Etoile Bowers Eleanor Florine Stayton and Samuel Thomas Polk Eleanor Faye Polk and Oliver William (Sonny) Damek I appreciate all the information I have received from member of the Lyons List and hope that I will be able to contribute some useful information. Eleanor Damek damek1@imsday.com or i675188@imsday.com ______________________________X-Message: #5 Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 19:58:23, -0500 From: FFWP26A@prodigy.com (MRS JO ANNE P ARNAUD) To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <199909142358.TAA09636@mime3.prodigy.com> Subject: Internet Message Jo-Anne Arnaud--Crowley, LA JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 63 Today's Topics: #1 Who is Elizabeth Cole married to W ["cajunk" ] #2 cajunk's message re Eliz Cole m to ["Ruby Dusek" ] ______________________________X-Message: #1 Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:53:00 -0400 From: "cajunk" To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <000d01ca3657$48959e20$ee4e58d8@default> Subject: Who is Elizabeth Cole married to William Lyons? Please bear with me on the following. Over the years I have been told by various people that Elizabeth Cole married to William Lyons was the daughter of Absolom B. Cole & Marry Ann Bilbo. In the last few weeks, I have been doing a little digging and have come up with a few questions. I cannot prove this theory, as yet, with documentation but by looking at the records that have been preserved I believe Elizabeth identity can be cleared up. This will be long, but please be patient. Children of Absolom & Mary Ann Cole: John R. b. ca 1818 Mary Ann b. ca 1820 Huldah Cole b. ca 1820 Jemima H. Cole b. ca 1825 Jonathan b. ca 1827 Stephen b. ca 1830 Catherine b. ca 1832 Seth b. ca 1833 Ralph b. ca 1835 **NOTE: There is no Elizabeth documented. Also, according to the 1850 Calcasieu Par. Census, Elizabeth wife of William Lyons was born ca 1810. If Elizabeth Cole was the daughter of Absolom & Mary Ann, would there be 10 yrs. between the first born and the rest of the children? ANOTHER POSSIBILITY Children of Solomon Cole (Uncle to Absolom B. Cole) married to Elizabeth Davis had the following children: James b. ca 1794 Susanna b. July 27, 1797 Polly b. ca 1798 Mary b. ca 1800 Abraham b. ca 1804 Eliza b. ca 1808 married 1) Isham Nettles 2) Jacob Simmons Stephen b. June 17, 1817 Elizabeth Cole married Jacob Simmons on December 4, 1829 in Opel., St. Landry Par. They had the following children: Raphael b. ca 1830 Hulda b. ca 1834 NOTE: The last child was born 1834. I have no death date for Jacob Simmons. Could he have died soon after? Could they have divorced? Again, I ask that you just bear with me. While this may get confusing, I believe it is important. William Lyons b. ca 1797-1800 married Elizabeth (Cole?) According to the 1850 Cal. Parish census, we have the following: House # Family # Name Age 208 242 William Lyons 50 Elizabeth 40 Mary 14 Nancy 12 William 10 Marceline 6 Alsina 4 (Alzenith) Tabisy 2 (Tabitha) 208 243 Hulda Simmons 14 NOTE: Hulda Simmons, daughter of Elizabeth Cole & Jacob Simmons, is not living next door but living in the SAME household as William Lyons. The 1840 Cal. Par. census shows: William Lyons (Household) 1 male under 5 yrs. William (b. ca 1840) 1 male 5-10 yrs. Raphael (b. ca 1830) 1 male 15-20 yrs. ? Unknown 1 male 40-50 yrs. William (b. ca 1797-1800) 2 females under 5 yrs. Mary (b. ca 1836); Nancy (b. ca 1838) 1 female 5-10 yrs. Hulda Simmons?? (ca 1834) 1 female 15-20 ? Unknown 1 female 20-30 Elizabeth (ca 1808-1810) Now, we have 2 children unaccounted for, a male & a female between the ages of 15-20 yrs old. Could these possibly be children by a previous marriage of Williams? In the book Cole Foot Prints by Camellia T. Denys, it states: "John r. Cole b. ca 1818 St. Landry Parish, LA., son of Absalom Benjamin Cole & Mary Ann Bilbo married Charlotte Lyons ca 1848. She was born ca 1832/33 and a daughter of William Lyons and Elizabeth Cole. I believe that if Charlotte was the unknown femal daughter living in William Lyons household in 1840, then she very well could have been a child of William Lyons and Tabitha Hayes. It seems likely that William would have had children before his third marriage. Also unaccounted for is the male child between the age of 15-20 yrs, living in the William Lyons household. I know this has been long & a lot to digest but would appreciate your feed back. Kathy Earley Pasadena, Texas ______________________________X-Message: #2 Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:01:53 -0500 From: "Ruby Dusek" To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <001801beffe7$7641bae0$480d76d8@rdusek> Subject: cajunk's message re Eliz Cole m to Wm Lyons Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit According to Father Hebert's Vol 2c, Susanne Charlotte Lyons was the daughter of William and Thabaity [Tabitha] Harmann, b 15 Oct 1830, bt 16 Nov 1833 in Grand Coteau church. ruby JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 64 Today's Topics: #1 Re: Who is Elizabeth Cole married [LV Hayes To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19990916161958.007f0c20@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: Who is Elizabeth Cole married to William Lyons? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:53:00 -0400 >From: "cajunk" >Subject: Who is Elizabeth Cole married to William Lyons? > >NOTE: Hulda Simmons, daughter of Elizabeth Cole & Jacob Simmons, is not >living next door but living in the SAME household as William Lyons. Also note that Raphael Simmons, son of Jacob Simmons and Elizabeth Cole, was living "next door" to Williams Lyons in the household (#209) of Jonathan Cole, who was a son of Absolum Cole and Mary Ann Bilbo. >I believe that if Charlotte was the unknown femal daughter living in >William Lyons household in 1840, then she very well could have been a >child of William Lyons and Tabitha Hayes. Have you been reading the postings on this list about this matter? Charlotte has already been identified as a child of William Lyons and his 2nd wife Tabitha Harmon. >It seems likely that William would have had children before his third >marriage. William had in fact 5 children by 1st wife Harriet "Hetty" Hayes and 2 by 2nd wife Tabitha Harmon. >I know this has been long & a lot to digest but would appreciate your >feed back. Personally, I think that your hypothesis that the Elizabeth Cole who was the 3rd wife of William Lyons was the same Elizabeth Cole who married Jacob Simmons is a very plausible one. The fact that Hulda and Raphael, the only known children of Jacob Simmons and Elizabeth Cole, were living in close proximity of William Lyons and his Elizabeth Cole in 1850 is circumstantial, but very compelling evidence that your hypothesis is correct. The Elizabeth Cole who married Jacob Simmons was married first to Isham Nettles (no known children). She divorced him. Perhaps she divorced Jacob as well or maybe he died; I have no evidence either way. LV JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 65 Today's Topics: #1 Vivian Hebert Swent [VCundy@aol.com] #2 Re: Vivian Hebert Swent ["cajunk" ] ______________________________X-Message: #1 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 18:10:09 EDT From: VCundy@aol.com To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: Subject: Vivian Hebert Swent Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Kathy, Joy has been sharing some information that you have provided regarding papers found in a library written by Vivian Swent.....I would very much like to have copies of this 12 page article to share with the list. If you wouldn't mind sending them to me I will be happy to return all costs involved for postage and copies. Let me know. My address is: Valerie Cundy 3628 SW Stonybrook Drive Topeka, Kansas 66614-5100 Thanks Valerie ______________________________X-Message: #2 Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:45:08 -0400 From: "cajunk" To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <000701ca3bef$7d2241a0$6b6e58d8@default> Subject: Re: Vivian Hebert Swent Valeria, I will send you copies. Am also sending copies to Jan on her request. Sorry, I've meant to get them out soon but with work, etc. and now I have the flu. Will send them tomorrow or next day. I'll try to send them express if I can. Kathy Earley Pasadena, Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 6:10 PM Subject: Vivian Hebert Swent Hi Kathy, Joy has been sharing some information that you have provided regarding papers found in a library written by Vivian Swent.....I would very much like to have copies of this 12 page article to share with the list. If you wouldn't mind sending them to me I will be happy to return all costs involved for postage and copies. Let me know. My address is: Valerie Cundy 3628 SW Stonybrook Drive Topeka, Kansas 66614-5100 Thanks Valerie JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 66 Today's Topics: #1 Swent On Lyons [Jan Craven ] #2 Re: Thanks [VCundy@aol.com] ______________________________X-Message: #1 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 15:32:54 -0500 From: Jan Craven To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990929153252.007dc430@mail.usunwired.net> Subject: Swent On Lyons Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all. Kathy Earley sent me this. I was hoping that I could scan but it won't pick up. She copied this from Claton Library in Houston. Don't know if it came from a verticle file or what, but Kathy can tell us that. It will take me several "installments" to get this, but here goes. John Lyons 1 John Lyons was born ca. 1760. (1810 and 1820 Louisiana census both give his age as "over 45" - 1830 census not yet examined). I have examined evey reference in the American State Papers, Public Lands, Vols. I through V without finding any reference as to the place of his nativity, or anything pertaining to John Lyons himself. The tradition has come down in various branches of the family that he came to Louisiana from Canada. Mr. charlton Havard Lyons thinks possibly from Toronto or Montreal. My great-grandfather, Benjamin Lyons, said Acadia. He went even futher and said he came with Gabrial and Evangeline. This could hardly be so. If, in fact, he did come from Canada, he came at the time of the American Revolution during the period when those who sanctioned the rebel cause and refused to take the oath of allegiance to England were expulsed from Nova Scotia. Certainly there were Lyons n Canada at this period of time. Some had come from England, some of them migrated from New England settlements into Canada. Nothing I had found indicates where he might have come from except these two items: 1. John Lyons, Jr., one of the sons of John Lyons, lived through the 1850 census. He gave his age as 70 years and his birthplace as Georgia. 2. Marriage bond of Michael Lyons, another son of John Lyons says that his parents were natives of Virginia. This marriage bond also calles Michael Lyons a "Lutheran". Since this was written by a Catholic priest, not too much reliance can be put on the "Lutheran" as the priests called most non-Catholics "Lutherans" or so I have been told. Page2 I do not believe that John Lyons came from Canada, although the story came down in my own line and in every branch of the family I have contacted. Be that as it may, John Lyons married Nancy Ahart prior to 1778 or 1780 and possibly(underlined) prior to that he had married Ana Ahart. Nothing indicates that Michael Lyons, the oldest son of John Lyons was not a full brother to his brothers and sisters except this marriage bond which calls him son of "John Lyons and Ana Ahart." This, too, could have been a priest's error as all of the other children whose marrige bonds, whether Church or State, I have found, are called children of John Lyons and Nancy Ahart. Of course, her name could have been Nancy Ann Ahart, and most likely was. Michael was certainly the oldest child and was born ca. 1778-1779, so if Nancy Ahart and Ana Ahart were one and the same person, the marriage of John Lyons and Nancy Ann Ahart took place ca 1778. The 1790 United States Census shows only two Aharts - - Michael Ahart, living in the Salisbury District of Surry County, North Carolina. I have written to the Clerk of Surry County asking if he has records of a marriage of John Lyons and Nancy or Ana Ahart, or any wills there on file for the surname Ahart, but as yet have received no reply. The other listed in the 1790 census was Jacob Ahart, living in Orange County, Virginia. I wrote to Orange County requesting information and receivd this reply: "Dear Mrs. Swent: There is no marriage record of Ana or Nancy Ahart; I also checked the will index for probates - none. (this covers from 1734 to the present) Nor is there a record of John Lyon (or Lyons). Very truly yours, Gladys E. D. Smith, Deputy Clerk." This eliminates Orange County which was formed in 1771 - early enough, certainly, for this marriage. More later, Jan ______________________________X-Message: #2 Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 09:50:20 EDT From: VCundy@aol.com To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <0.872a89c0.2524c49c@aol.com> Subject: Re: Thanks Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Kathy, I appreciate being included, but I can't take any credit....Jan has been the key to the wealth of information made available. As she said there are many people out there that help in the project, and my contributions don't even scratch the surface compared to what these folks are doing. I just know that Jan works her poor little fingers to the bone and really has her heart and sole into the project. Hats off to Jan and her clan! Valerie JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 67 Today's Topics: #1 SWENT on LYONS pg 3& 4 of 12 [VCundy@aol.com] #2 SWENT ON LYONS pg 9 of 12 [VCundy@aol.com] #3 Pages from Swent info [joydm@webtv.net (Joy Moore)] #4 Swent info [joydm@webtv.net (Joy Moore)] #5 Swent Info [joydm@webtv.net (Joy Moore)] #6 Swent info contd [joydm@webtv.net (Joy Moore)] ______________________________X-Message: #1 Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 22:14:55 EDT From: VCundy@aol.com To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <246e43b2.2526c49f@aol.com> Subject: SWENT on LYONS pg 3& 4 of 12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is PG 3 & 4 of 12 from the Vivian Swent papers on file at the Clayton Library Center for Genealogical Research in Houston. I'm going to help Jan out and do some of this typing when I have a chance. I really look forward to some feedback from this list as these pages are typed. Thanks to Kathy Earley for sending them! In case you missed the first 2 pages they can be found in the JohnLyons list archives. PG# 3 of 12 However, Surry County, North Carolina, as far as I know, has all of its records and I am hoping that I will find the marriage there. Michael Ahart could certainly have been a brother- or the father -- of our Nancy Ahart, as her first child was named Michael Lyons. If John Lyons and Nancy Ahart were married in Virginia or North Carolina ca. 1778, they could have been in Georgia in 1780 when John Lyons, Jr. was born and then have come on to Louisiana. Or, they could have been natives of Georgia, as the first land grant in Georgia is recorded to Samuel Lyons. At the time I checked Georgia records for John Lyons I did not have the name of his wife and I will have to recheck it with the Ahart surname as a guide. I have checked "Georgia Passports" without finding any issued to a John Lyons. Mrs. Mary Givens Bryan, Director Department of Archives & History, Atlanta 9, Georgia, also checked "Passports 1785-1820" and found none issued to any one by the name of Lyon-Lyons. Family tradition says that John Lyons came to Louisiana about the time of the American Revolution, however the 1793 Land Census of Opelousas does not show any Lyons as land-owners at that time. The first record I have found for him in Louisiana is his settlement of a tract of land (640 acres) on Bayou B Cannes. This tract he sold to George King, and Certificate of the Board of Commissioners was issued to George King for this tract of land. (See American State Papers, Public Lands, Vol. II, p. 829 in documents section) Unfortunately, this does not show the date of settlement and occupancy of this tract of land. I rechecked for George King hoping to find the date John LYons settled this tract, but was unable to find a date of settlement. Obviously, this tract was settled before John Lyons bought the two tracts from the Indians in 1801 and 1802. PG# 4 of 12 John Lyons had cattle pens on Bayou Queue de Tortue as early as 1800, and shortly after the purchase Michael Lyons was living there with his bride, so this tract that was settled on the Bayou B. Cannes must have been settled prior to 1800. Possibly more information can be found in the files of the State Land Office, Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I wrote to them concerning the cost of photostats of records in the name of John Lyons and received the following reply: "Dear Mrs. Swent: With reference to your letter of May 17, the approximate cost for a photostatic copy of records in the name of John Lyons would be $46.50, and consist of 16 township plats, 9 state patents and 12 pages from the United States and State Tract Book records. It is a pleasure to be of service. Yours very truly, Ellen Bryan Moore, Registar, by Joy Davis, Records Division." Perhaps I will get to Baton Rouge to examine these records, or perhaps later on I will feel that I can afford to take the chance of finding more information in them and ordering them. They are certainly not to be forgotten as a source of more infomation on John Lyons. At this time, however, we can only say that John Lyons was in Louisiana shortly before 1800. This date is one that I would like to establish more definitely as in 1797 we have a Samuel Lyons and a WIlliam Lyons settling in Louisiana. These may or may not be connected with our John Lyons, but inasmuch as John, William and Samuel are family names, the possibility that these three Lyons were connected is not to be overlooked. Family tradition also has it that this John Lyons was a doctor or a surgeon. At the time, there was a distinction made between the physician and the surgeon and the surgeon was not called "doctor." This title was only applied to the "Doctor of Physic." ______________________________X-Message: #2 Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 23:22:24 EDT From: VCundy@aol.com To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <0.67c64c4e.2526d470@aol.com> Subject: SWENT ON LYONS pg 9 of 12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No.......you haven't missed any pages, I just wanted to skip to some of the juicy stuff....I'll come back and type the earlier pages soon. Some of this will be hard to piece together, I'm not sure what these 12 pages are? There are references and notes that refer to other information that I haven't found within the 12 pages. Have Fun! Valerie PG # 9 of 12 Additional notes concerning John Lyons( husband of Nancy Ahart) concerning the GEORGIA origin. Excerpts from letters furnished me by Mr. Archie Luke Shaw, 6141 ???????, Los Angeles 48, Louisiana I have asked Mr. Shaw to furnish me with full photostatic copies of the letters quoted. Letter from Mr. M.L. Lyons of Crowley, dated 11-8-1902 to Mr. Archie Luke Shaw. At that time Mr. Shaw was trying to locate the heirs of one W.W. Lyons and was advised to contact the Doctor regarding this, "the particulars W.W. Lyons, Cohrina Lyons and Mary Lyons. W.W. Lyons was a brother of my Great Grandfather John, among the first settlers here. My mother, wife of Abel Lyons ( Mary Ann Bryan) was a daughter of Luke Bryan who went to Texas in the early days of settling that state." In another letter from Mr. M.L. Lyons to Mr. Archie Luke Shaw, dated 11-18-1902, the doctor states: "as to where the Lyons came from to La. can only say they came from some southern states near the Atlantic Coast. I could have been more definite in my early days. I am now 68 yrs. old and can only say about that section." "My great-grandfather John Lyons and wife were full-blooded German and Dutch, so said if I remember well." Mr. Archie Luke Shaw makes note that Dr. Michael L. Lyons did not once mention the name of the wife of John Lyons. NOTE: These letters were written in 1902 before the Canadian estate was heard of and Benjamin made his affidavit in 1907. I would not for the moment suggest that Benjamin Lyons was dishonest when he made the statement that John Lyons ( father of John Lyons) and John Lyons came from Canada. I've always thougth that he got that mixed up in his mind from living where there were so many people who actually did come with Gabriel and Evangeline, so to speak. Of course, Benjamin Lyons was 10 years old when John Lyons, Sr. died, and he actually knew him; Dr. Michael Lyons, newphew of Benjamin, was born the year John Lyons, Sr. died so he could not have known him. BUT Dr. Michael's father , Abel Lyons was a grown man when his youngest brother Benjamin was born. It is possible that Abel Lyons had more correct information that his brother Benjamin, and that Abel Lyons passed this information on to his son Dr. Michael. HOWEVER, all of the descendants I know of Abel Lyons have told me that "THE LYONS ARE SCOTCH-IRISH- and that five brothers came over to America." BUT Dr. Michael was Abel's son--I know only this Abel's gr-grandchildren and one of his grandsons. The grandson told me nothing, my information is from the gr-grandchildren.So--Mr. Michael Lyons information given in 1902 is probably more correct than that given me during my lifetime. ______________________________X-Message: #3 Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 05:41:57 -0500 (CDT) From: joydm@webtv.net (Joy Moore) To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <19698-37F5E175-6485@postoffice-222.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Subject: Pages from Swent info Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit I will take a turn to help Jan and Val with these pages This is page 5, 6 and part of 7 In none of the original records have I found him called anything but "Mr " John Lyons I have established the fact that he was literate - he wrote and signed the consent for his son Samuels marriage "This is to certify that Mr John Lyons consents to his son marriage with Mr Bosman Hayes Daughter, Given under my hand this 23 day of December 1811 John Lyons" Another document, a deed dated 13 November 1827 from John Lyons, Sr to Michael Lyons says "John Lyons who cannot write for lack of sight" This document is signed by John Lyons Sr and all his children except his son David, who had died in 1825 David's widow Rebeckah Lyons signed in his place Michael Lyons Family Bible has this entry " John Lyons Sr m Nancy" (Her last name and the date are unfortunately not given) Nancy Ahart Lons' death is recorded as June 1 1809 This date may or may not be right I have asked Mr Charlton Havard Lyons to recheck this date and see if it could possibly be 1829 as there is no indication that Nancy Ahart Lyons was dead in 1810 or 1820 when the census was taken I have been unable to find a succession for her in either St Landry or Lafayette Parishes, but have not checked St Martin or St Mary's Parishes Michael Lyons Family Bible has this entry "John Lyons Sr died August 23 1835" Here again I have asked Mr Charltn Havard Lyons to recheck as John Lyons Sr's succession was fied in St Landry parish on Sept 3 1834 so his dath must have occurred on Agust 23, 1834 John Lyons married (2nd) on November 30, 1829 St Landry Mar. bond # H 73 to Agnes Berwick Widow Prather Unfortunately this marriage bond does not give the parents of the parties John Lyons and William Prather were bondsmen They were married on November 30 1829 in the presence of William Prather, David Kneeland and Isaac Pickering, Marriage was performed by George King, Parish Judge. There were no children the issue of this marriage and she evidently predeceased him or they signed a marriage contract which excluded her from any share of his estate as she is not mentioned in his succession. These lawsuits are recorded in the Opelousas District Court and are supposed to be in the attic of the courthouse there, but I have not had the opporunity to examine them They might possibly throw some light on where John Lyons came from 1 Opelousas District court # 672 -- 13 Sept 1822 John Lyons Sr Versus Jacob Foreman # 312 due since 3-1-1822 2 Opelousas District Court # 776 -- 15 June 1823 Herbert Eastin versus John Lyons Sr, WilliamLyons, David Lyons, William Prather This concerns debt, mentions land owned by Lyons in St Landry Parish on north side of Bayou Que de Tortue, 20 arpents front by 40 depth Debt paid without land sale on 22 June 1825 3 Sale from John Lyons Sr to Michael Lyons -- dated 13 November 1827 mentions land that " whereas the said John Lyos Sr owns a tract of land lying on both sides of the ............. being the same tact of land for which Doctor Francois Robin presented a suit against the said John Lyos, Sen. in the District court in and for the said parish of St Landry" This lawsuit should also be in the attic files in Opelousas Court House These files , unfortunately are not indexed and I am indebted to Flavia Vincent Reeds of Lake Charles for the informatio that the first two items are in the District Court Files JOY ______________________________X-Message: #4 Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 06:01:02 -0500 (CDT) From: joydm@webtv.net (Joy Moore) To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <19698-37F5E5EE-6543@postoffice-222.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Subject: Swent info Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Continuing on Page 7 The deed mentioning the third lawsuit will be found in the document section of this book Possibly there are other lawsuits in the old District Court files, and I hope to have the opportunity of examining them Children of John Lyons and Nancy (or Ana) (or Nancy Ann) Ahart : 1 Michael Lyons b. ca 1778 d October 19, 1840 near Gueydon Vermllion Parish Married (1) Mary Polly Hayes in Oct 180 (last figure is missing from my copy) (2) Ellenor Berwick, widow of William Newman (3) Dame Susan Aikley, widow of John Reeves 2 John Lyons Jr b 1780 in Georgia, died pr to June 6 1853 when his succession was opened in St Landry He married (1) Mary Rachel Forman, from whom he was separated in 1824, and (2) Susan Gilchrist 3 Gabriel Lyons b.__________ d 9-10-1843 in St Landry Parish La He married (1) Amelia "Milly" Hayes and (2) Nancy Burleigh (Burley) 4 Samuel Lyons b.________ d before 7-24-1837 in St Landry Parish La married Tabitha Hayes 12-23-1811, St Landry 5 Elizabeth Lyons b. ca. ____ d____ married (1) David Harmon 3-31-1804 (2) Thomas Hayes ca 1809 6 William Lyons b. ca 1797 d Dec 15, 1853 in Calcasieu Parish married (1) Hetty Hayes on 4-1-1816 (SL # A-14): (2) Tabitha Harmon on 9-22-1829 (SL #H-61) and (3) Eliza Cole This third marriage I believe took place in Calcasieu Parish 7 David Lyons b ca 1798 d prior to 4-30-1825 mar. ca 1822 to Receca Merriman This takes us down to the middle of page 8 JOY ______________________________X-Message: #5 Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 11:43:18 -0500 (CDT) From: joydm@webtv.net (Joy Moore) To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <10647-37F63626-6369@postoffice-223.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Subject: Swent Info Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Continuing on Page 8 Notes: 1 In an earlier draft I have the Note "Nancy Ahart b ca 1769-1765 in South Carolina " I don't know where I found this now and can't seem to find my source. 2 In an earler draft I had "John Lyons died at his farm in Plaquamie Brules, St Landry Parish" THIS IS AN ERROR I picked up His succession clearly states " the plantation and last residence of the late John Lyons, Sen. of said Parish, deceased, situate on the Bayou Queue de Tortue, distant about fifty miles from the Court House of Said Parish......" From the time he purchased this land on the Queue de Tortue, in what is now Vermillion and Acadia Parishes, John Lyons seems to have never lived any place except on the Acadia side of the Bayou Note 3 In his consent to his daughter Tabitha Hays marriage to Samuel Lyons ( St Landry #A-14) Bosman Hayes says "Bosman Hayes, ligitimate father of Tabitha Hayes who declared by his consent to the marriage of his said daughter Tabitha with Samuel Lyon , legitimate son of John Lyon, all of the Parish aforesaid & planters by profession" (See this bond in full in documents section--- would indicate that John Lyons Sr was NOT A DOCTOR Val has already given you page 9 so I will go to page 10 Additional Notes concerning John Lyons 1 Let's assume that Dr Michael Lyons statements ARE correct in the most parts and see how things fit We have this : John Lyons, a full blooded German, who with his brother W W Lyons was one of the earlies settlers here (Crowley area of La) John Lyons was married to a woman, name not given, who was full blooded Dutch, according to context, or Dr Lyons could have meant that both of them were "full blooded German and Dutch" as the two are sometimes used to mean the same thing. However, that isn't what he said He definitely said "full -bloodd Germand AND Dutch" which would indicate that John Lyons was German and his wife Dutch This all fits (underlined) Michael Lyons marriage bond says he was a Luthern. If his parents were German or Dutch, he would most likely have been Lutheran. Again Dr Lyons says they came " from some Southern States near the Atlantic Coast" This too fits (underlined) John Lyons2 said he was born in Georgia Georgia Colonial Records Vol V pp 562, 663, 665, - we find "Samuel Lyons who married a Miss Erinsman who was a Dutch bound servant. She had a brother John Erinxman and they lived near a Michael Burghalter, although I found no Erinxman-Erinxman-Lyons tie except that they were all Dutch bound servants except SAMUEL LYONS Ga Col. Records don't say what he is, just that he is NOT ENTITLED to anything except in the right of his wife. Also living near these people were Jacob Harbeck, John Ample, and Harbeck's brothers, names not given I do not know date of Marriage for Samuel Lyons and Miss Erinxman but they were married before Nov 5 1741 I think that we are going to find that our John Lyons1 of Bayou Queue de Tortue is either a son or a grandson of this Samuel Lyons and --------Erinxman Depending on the time of this marriage they could have been the parents of John Lyons (who Benjamin Lyns says was the father of our John Lyons1) or Benjamin could have been wrong about the name being John and this Samuel Lyons and -----Erinxman could have been the father of out John Lyons1 If this is so then our John Lyons1 could have been the son of Samuel Lyons, nationality unknown and his wife---------Erinxman who was Dutch The Mother's language is usually the one spoken at home and our John Lyons1 could have been considered (underlined) "full-blooded German" and his wife Nancy Ahart could have been almost anything I re-ran the indexes to Ga Col. Documents and found no Aharts in Georgia - also looked for Barhart, Eihart, deHart, and Hart We have here only Vol I through XVI of the series and the first three volumes are not indexed. 'Will try to scan those for both Lyons-Ahart-Hart surnames I did find one reference to a pension granted to "Hart's widow" in Savannah on Nov 12, 1742 These Col Documents are not too well indexed anyway but there are many surnames there of people who did move on to Louisiana " Historical Collections of the Joseph Habersham Chapter DAR Vol I might have some information on this Georgia Family These three volumes were published in Atlanta early in this century and we have the last two volumes, but do not have the virst volume here in S. F (San Francisco) This takes us down to page 11 JOY ______________________________X-Message: #6 Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 13:45:25 -0500 (CDT) From: joydm@webtv.net (Joy Moore) To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <19698-37F652C5-8187@postoffice-222.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Subject: Swent info contd Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit An then of course there is another family mentioned in Ga Col Records Vol XII, pp 91 and 92 In November of 1771 John Lyon who had a wife and seven children prayed for 400 acres in St George Parish Ga Col Records Vol XXVI ( which I saw when I was in Louisiaa ages ago) had a Lines family but no Lyons. On p 115 this appears "in 1750 Germans were at Ebenezer - some came at their own expense; some were bound servants" On p 319 - " Germans came on the "Antilope" -- her captain was Capt. MacClellan" This Capt MacClellan appears often and he is sometimes spelled McClelan - and the McClelan's came on to Louisiana and settled near the Lyons I must have checked this volume after I found the Ahart surname for I have the note "no Ahart, Erhart, DeHart or Harts in this volume" Back to Ga Col Records Vol 7 has : p 872 Conrad Echard p 146, 148 - James Hart Vol 6 has: p 45, 52 - Harte's widow - pension Nov 12, 1741, Savannah, has no Ahart, Erhart, Dehart, Eihart Vol 5 has no variation of Ahart Vol 8 has no variation of Ahart but has a Hartstone, also has p 157 Samuel Lyon, also has Isaac Lyons x notes Vol 9 has no variation of Ahart but has a DOHart p 50, 337, 646, 695, has n Lyons but has Lynn p 128, 404 Vol 10 has Lynn, Lyn, and Linn, has lots of Harts but no other variation of Ahart Vol 11 has no variation of Ahart but has Harts who were Quakers and joined the Friends settlement , p 113 has Samuel Lyon, Aug 1770-229 ac. gr. St Pauls Parish There are other referenes to this same grant either in this volume or others Vol 12 has no vaiation of Ahart but has some Hart p 91 & 92 - John Lyon Nov 1771 9 wife and 7 children) prayed for 400 ac St George Parish Vol 13 no entries for Aharts or Lyons Vol 4 had no Lyon or Ahart or Hart entries except p 43-44 description of Vineyard of Abraam Lyon a Portugese Jew Dec 6 1737 I have checked all Lyons, Lies, Lynn entries out in volumes available here (in SF) Louisiana Historical Quarterly Vol 21, 1938 p 733 Footnoe # 74 " Dr William Lyon appears to have been a St Francisville physician, as his name appears on the list of eighteen who signed and address to the members of the convention from the Feliciana district on Aug 13, 1810____" Artur, ofcit. 59: this concerns a letter of request to form a Medical Society & they had first meeting in Baton Rouge. Leter sent by several physicians and surgeons now employed in the public service at the fort of Baton Rouge. Signed by Dr M L (Martin) Hanie, Dr John C Williams, Dr W Lyn, Dr Dudley Avery, Core R French _____________________________ The above notes sent to Vivian Swent by M L Delcambre 2-7-1963 Can this Dr William Lyon be the one Alexander Vincent and Myrle Denig and others have heard or read of ??????? The abve note from La Hist Quarterly refers to the time of the West Florida Rebellion There was no William Lyons in the 1810 St Landry Census but in the 1820 St Landry census there is a widow Sarah Lyons She was Sarah Spaack Lyns, the widow of William Lyos who died ca 1820 in St Landry Parish A Large number of families came from the Felicianas to St Landry during the years from 1810 to 1820 and this may have been one of them _______________________________ That is all of the 12 pages JOY JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 68 Today's Topics: #1 Unsubscribe ["Lynn & Bill King" ] ______________________________X-Message: #1 Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 07:32:45 -0500 From: "Lynn & Bill King" To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <00c201bf0d9b$8ef24fc0$54e590d1@default> Subject: Unsubscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit l ______________________________X-Message: #2 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 14:58:22 -0500 From: Mike Gil To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <37F7B55E.220600AA@bellsouth.net> Subject: REMOVE from list This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------2D96526273D6F5CEFAB58078 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------2D96526273D6F5CEFAB58078 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <37F7B467.32386E2C@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 14:54:15 -0500 From: Mike Gil X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: johnlyonsll@rootsweb.com Subject: remove Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please remove me from list. I have 2 e-mail address & don't need to be on both. REMOVE - mikegil@bellsouth.net Thanks, Anne Galloway Gil JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 69 Today's Topics: #1 John Lyons married Nancy Ahart (Ea [RCulbe6428@aol.com] ______________________________X-Message: #1 Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:14:01 EDT From: RCulbe6428@aol.com To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8b3d2315.252a7299@aol.com> Subject: John Lyons married Nancy Ahart (Earhart ?) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello: I wanted to inquire whether the ancestry of Nancy Ahart (Earhart) has ever been ascertained? After reading some of the data on John Lyons, it seems that he could have lived in the Georgia-North Carolina area. I found an Earhart family in South Carolina. It seems the earliest ancestors in that family were Peter Earhart and his wife Mary Margaret. The family was from Switzerland and lived near Lexington, South Carolina in the mid 1700s. A son Jacob served in the South Carolina Militia 1759-60. A grandson was Joseph Earhart born 1773. The family was Lutheran. I also find that descendants of this family spell their surname several different ways---Earhart, Airhart, and Ehart. Could our Nancy be of this family? Of course, this could be just a "wild guess". Any comments? RICHARD JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 70 Today's Topics: #1 The Vivian Swent Papers [VCundy@aol.com] ______________________________X-Message: #1 Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 17:30:16 EDT From: VCundy@aol.com To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <0.f3607af4.252e6ae8@aol.com> Subject: The Vivian Swent Papers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Everyone! I wanted to share with you the opionion of someone whose work I admire and value. I forwarded her the information on Vivian Swent that was recently submitted to this list. The article she plans to submit will cover information on John Lyons and his father Samuel. This is what she had to offer: October 7, 1999 Dear Valerie, I don't mind if you want to share the information and opinions I sent with the list. Since some of it is my opinion you can use my name. This is consistent with what I have written in the article I will be submitting to the Louisiana Genealogical Society for publication in the Register. Incidentally, I sent them a contribution about Col. William Lyons of South Carolina taken from the Draper Manuscript Collection. Col. Lyons is NOT, to my knowledge, related to our John Lyons. They published this in the latest issue, September 1999, with an added title "The John Lyons Family." I was very distressed to see this misleading title. Rose Mary * * * * * October 4, 1999 Dear Valerie, I am familiar with Mrs. Swent's research on this family. I really can't deal with every rumor that circulated in the Lyons families. I can only deal with the evidence that I find in the records. Reverend Hebert's books, SOUTHWEST LOUISIANA RECORDS, in which the baptisms and marriages of John and Nancy's children were recorded say that they were "of Georgia". Further, at the time of John's birth we find his father, Samuel Lyon, living near Savannah in Georgia. I believe that John was born in Georgia. The other reports of his birthplace were probably faulty recollections of stories told in the family about Grandpa, but whith a little confusion about which grandpa. There were many people in that area whose ancestors were Acadians and did come from Canada. The only exception to the "of Georgia" origin was given in the marriage of Michael when he said they were of Virginia. It is possible that Nancy Ahart was from Virginia. though I have found no evidence of this. There were Erharts living in the same area as Samuel Lyons about the time that John and Nancy married. I have found no record of their marriage, but then many records of this area were destroyed in the confusion of the American Revolution. The area was taken by the rebels, then captured by the British and finally recaptured by the Americans. In this hectic environment some records were never created. I hope I can get my article out soon. Good luck, Rose Mary JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 71 Today's Topics: #1 Vincent Family [john & nelda stebbins To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <38011937.7DEC3449@centuryinter.net> Subject: Vincent Family Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi my name is Nelda, I live in Ragley, La. I am looking for any infornation on John B. Vincent who is supposed to have married Liza Miller. I believe she was a Chotaw Indian. John B. Vincent's daughter was Sussie Vincent who married David Crocket Ravia. They are my grandparents on my father's side.. I need information on Liza Miller also. I have many old old pictures that I found in my cedar chest which I think belongs to the Vincent's, Roaches, Ravia's and other families. If there is anyone out their that could maybe help me identify them I sure would love it. My daddy had these pictures, he is a "Ravia" I used some of the pictures to copy for all my sisters and brothers for a Christmas Present 2 years ago. I know someone would love to have copies of these pictures if we could only identify them. Thanks, Nelda JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 72 Today's Topics: #1 Re: Vincent Family ["David Swanson" ] ______________________________X-Message: #1 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 20:33:30 -0500 From: "David Swanson" To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <199910140134.UAA11734@bunyip.flash.net> Subject: Re: Vincent Family Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I have a Harriet Sheriff Vincent from Mississippi that lived in the Lake Charles area. Her family came to the Calcasieu area by wagon train led by Choctaws. I understand she was catholic and was a teacher. Harriet died 27 Dec 1903. Don't know her husband's name. Not much help to you - does this match up with anything you have? Rosemary Lyons Carraway swanson@flash.net ---------- > From: john & nelda stebbins > To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Vincent Family > Date: Sunday, October 10, 1999 5:54 PM > > Hi my name is Nelda, I live in Ragley, La. I am looking for any > infornation on John B. Vincent who is supposed to have married Liza > Miller. I believe she was a Chotaw Indian. John B. Vincent's daughter > was Sussie Vincent who married David Crocket Ravia. They are my > grandparents on my father's side.. I need information on Liza Miller > also. I have many old old pictures that I found in my cedar chest > which I think belongs to the Vincent's, Roaches, Ravia's and other > families. If there is anyone out their that could maybe help me > identify them I sure would love it. My daddy had these pictures, he is > a "Ravia" I used some of the pictures to copy for all my sisters and > brothers for a Christmas Present 2 years ago. > I know someone would love to have copies of these pictures if we could > only identify them. > Thanks, > Nelda > ______________________________X-Message: #2 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:02:08 -0500 From: Jan Craven To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <3.0.32.19991014070206.007cbd90@mail.usunwired.net> Subject: Re: Vincent Family Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Rosemary, Have you checked the library here in LC for an obit on her? When are you coming to Lake Charles. I can arrange with the UDC Chapter here for a grave marker/Memorial service for Oscar Lyons. I have contacted them and they said that they just need to know when. Jan At 08:33 PM 10/13/99 -0500, you wrote: >Hi, I have a Harriet Sheriff Vincent from Mississippi that lived in the >Lake Charles area. Her family came to the Calcasieu area by wagon train >led by Choctaws. I understand she was catholic and was a teacher. Harriet >died 27 Dec 1903. Don't know her husband's name. Not much help to you - >does this match up with anything you have? >Rosemary Lyons Carraway >swanson@flash.net > >---------- >> From: john & nelda stebbins >> To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Vincent Family >> Date: Sunday, October 10, 1999 5:54 PM >> >> Hi my name is Nelda, I live in Ragley, La. I am looking for any >> infornation on John B. Vincent who is supposed to have married Liza >> Miller. I believe she was a Chotaw Indian. John B. Vincent's daughter >> was Sussie Vincent who married David Crocket Ravia. They are my >> grandparents on my father's side.. I need information on Liza Miller >> also. I have many old old pictures that I found in my cedar chest >> which I think belongs to the Vincent's, Roaches, Ravia's and other >> families. If there is anyone out their that could maybe help me >> identify them I sure would love it. My daddy had these pictures, he is >> a "Ravia" I used some of the pictures to copy for all my sisters and >> brothers for a Christmas Present 2 years ago. >> I know someone would love to have copies of these pictures if we could >> only identify them. >> Thanks, >> Nelda >> > > > JOHNLYONS-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 73 Today's Topics: #1 Re: Vincent Family ["David Swanson" To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <199910161352.IAA00130@chupacabras.flash.net> Subject: Re: Vincent Family Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jan, I don't think I ever found an obit on Harriet Vincent, but I did find the succession in Lake Charles and asked my aunt about her - she was the step or half sister of my grandmother Varina Athens. I do need to come to Lake Charles soon - a cool front is coming Sunday - relief at last. Which day of the week is best for the UDC service? Rosemary Fritz may come with us. Rosemary ---------- > From: Jan Craven > To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Vincent Family > Date: Thursday, October 14, 1999 7:02 AM > > Rosemary, > Have you checked the library here in LC for an obit on her? > When are you coming to Lake Charles. I can arrange with the UDC Chapter > here for a grave marker/Memorial service for Oscar Lyons. I have contacted > them and they > said that they just need to know when. > Jan > > At 08:33 PM 10/13/99 -0500, you wrote: > >Hi, I have a Harriet Sheriff Vincent from Mississippi that lived in the > >Lake Charles area. Her family came to the Calcasieu area by wagon train > >led by Choctaws. I understand she was catholic and was a teacher. Harriet > >died 27 Dec 1903. Don't know her husband's name. Not much help to you - > >does this match up with anything you have? > >Rosemary Lyons Carraway > >swanson@flash.net > > > >---------- > >> From: john & nelda stebbins > >> To: JOHNLYONS-L@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: Vincent Family > >> Date: Sunday, October 10, 1999 5:54 PM > >> > >> Hi my name is Nelda, I live in Ragley, La. I am looking for any > >> infornation on John B. Vincent who is supposed to have married Liza > >> Miller. I believe she was a Chotaw Indian. John B. Vincent's daughter > >> was Sussie Vincent who married David Crocket Ravia. They are my > >> grandparents on my father's side.. I need information on Liza Miller > >> also. I have many old old pictures that I found in my cedar chest > >> which I think belongs to the Vincent's, Roaches, Ravia's and other > >> families. If there is anyone out their that could maybe help me > >> identify them I sure would love it. My daddy had these pictures, he is > >> a "Ravia" I used some of the pictures to copy for all my sisters and > >> brothers for a Christmas Present 2 years ago. > >> I know someone would love to have copies of these pictures if we could > >> only identify them. > >> Thanks, > >> Nelda > >> > > > > > > > >