Military: Widow's Application for Confederate Pension DEROSIER, CLEOPHINE ORTEGO Widow of DEROSIER, SAMUEL (DEROSIA) Evangeline Parish, Louisiana Submitted by Alfred W DeRosier ********************************************** Copyright. All rights reserved. http://usgwarchives.net/copyright.htm http://usgwarchives.net/la/lafiles.htm ********************************************** INDEX_NAME DEROSIA, SAMUEL REEL CP1.31 MICRODEX 3.000000 MICRODEX__ 27.000000 PAGES 15.000000 TARGET DEROSIER, CLEOPHINE ORTEGO INDEX_NAME DEROSIER, SAMUEL REEL CP1.38 MICRODEX 3.000000 MICRODEX_ 27.000000 PAGES 15.000000 TARGET DEROSIER, CLEOPHINE ORTEGO (cover) Parish of Evangeline Application Number 19744 : Pension Number (blank) WIDOW'S APPLICATION FOR CONFEDERATE PENSION The Board reserves the Right to Call for Additional Testimony Mrs. Cleophine Ortego Derosier Widow of Samuel Derosier Company and Regiment H, 8 La Inf Street Address % Ambroise Fontenot, Route 4, Box 4 P.O. and State Ville Platte, La Filed: Jul 18 1930 Allowed: (blank) Monthly Allowance, $: 1st Class Pension Allowed from: (blank) Rejected: SEP 18 1930 MAR 10 1931 (blank), President W M Stirling, Secretary Board of Pension Commissioners. Date of Marriage: April 27, 1869 Date of Birth: 1841 Cause of death of Widow's Husband? Sore Throat When Did He Die? March 14, 1891 Where? Near Ville Platte, La. Date of Granting Pension: (blank) Monthly Amount? (blank) Date of Application? August 13, 1930 To save delay, applicants should furnish all documentary evidence they may possess, and sworn statements of comrades of their husband's when obtainable. Applications should be mailed to The Board of Pension Commissioners, P. O. Box 563, Baton Rouge, La. Blanks will be furnished by the Secretary on request. Regular meetings of the Board, second Tuesday in March, June, September, and December. WIDOW'S APPLICATION FOR CONFEDERATE PENSION STATE OF LOUISIANA, PARISH OF EVANGELINE. } ON THIS, the 13th day of AUGUST, 1930, personally appeared before me, Frank Cazan Fontenot, { Clerk of District Court, Within and for said Parish and State, Mrs. Cleophine Ortego, who, being by me first duly sworn according to law, declares she is the widow of Samuel Derosier, who entered the service of the Confederate States during the Civil War under the name of Samuel Derosia, and that she claims the aid and benefit of Article 18 of the Constitution of 1921, and subsequent Acts of the Legislature of the State thereunder, as is further shown by her answers to the following questions, which she swears to be true and correct: 1. Where were you born? St. Landry Parish, La. When? 1841 2. What was the date of your marriage to the above mentioned soldier? April 27th, 1869 3. How many times have you been married? once Explain fully, giving dates and all other information (blank) 4. Where was your husband born? Rapides Parish, La., When? 1820 5. When did your husband enlist? beginning of war Where? Rapides Parish, La., 6. Did he serve in the Infantry, Cavalry, Artillery, Navy, or Marines? Infantry. 7. Give the letter of his company and the number of his regiment: Pvt. Co. H. 8th. La., Infantry 8. In what State was his command organized? Louisiana, 9. Where did your husband reside at the time of his enlistment? Rapides, Parish, Louisiana. 10. Give the names of your husband's commanding officers: dont remember 11. Did he serve until the close of the war? no he was discharged by reason of disability. 12. Where was he paroled, or discharged? Alexandria, La., When? I dont remember the date. 13. How long have you been a resident of the State of Louisiana next preceding the date of this application? all my life 14. When did your husband die? March 14, 1891 Where: Ville Platte, La., 15. What was the cause of death? Sore Throat. 16. Are you salaried or otherwise provided for by the State of Louisiana, or by any other State or government? no 17. What is the value of your property, real and personal? no 18. What is the amount of your total annual income, from all sources? none 19. Have you ever made application for the pension before? no If so, when? ---- 20. Did your husband apply for the pension? no When? no Was it allowed? (blank) 21. What is your postoffice address? Ville Platte, La., % Mr. Ambroise Fontenot Route 4 Bx. 4. WITNESS my hand on this 13th day of August, 1930 /s/ X (her mark) Cleophine Ortego, APPLICANT. /s/ Joseph A. Hardey /s/ Mrs Ambroise Fontenot Also personally appeared Joeseph A. Hardey, residing at Ville Platte, La. and Mrs. Ambroise Fontenot, residing at near Ville Platte, La. persons whom I certify to be respectable and entitled to credit, and who, being by me duly sworn say that they were present and saw Mrs. Cleophine Ortego, the claimant, sign her name to the foregoing declaration and that they verily believe that the facts and declaration of said claimant are true and correct: that their acquaintance with her for 40 years and 30 years,, respectively, justifies them in making this statement, and that she is the identical person she represents herself to be, and that they have no interest in the prosecution of this claim. /s/ Joseph A Hardey /s/ Mrs. ambroise Fontenot Sworn to and subscribed before me on this, the 13th day of August, 1930 and I hereby certify that the contents of the above declaration were fully made known and explained to applicant and witnesses, well known to me to be the persons whose names are subscribed to the foregoing application, and that I have no interest, direct or indirect, in the prosecution of this claim. /s/ Frank Cazan Fontenot, Clerk of Court Note: Marriage and birth certificates of the applicant should be attached to this application, or corroborative evidence of date of same. _______________________________________________________________ Copy of Marriage Extract: Samuel Derosier & Cleophine Ortego, St. Landry Parish La. _______________________________________________________________ No. 19744 STATE OF LOUISIANA. OFFICE OF BOARD OF PENSION COMMISSIONERS Baton Rouge, La., August 18th, 1930 To Adjutant General, War Department, Washington, D.C. Dear Sir: This Board, in the discharge of its duties under Article 18 of the Constitution of 1921 of the State of Louisiana, and of subsequent acts of the Legislature thereunder, respectfully applies for information from your records, relative to: SAMUEL DEROSIER ---- of Company H, 8th Louisiana Infantry, C. S. Army. enlisted in Rapides Parish, La., near the beginning of the war. He did not serve until the close of the war, but was discharged for disability. Exact date and place are unknown, probably at or near Alexandria, La. Please give the record. Yours very respectfully, W.W.Mains, (init. WMS) President. _______________________________________________________________ O.R.D. WAR DEPARTMENT THE ADJUTANT GENERAL'S OFFICE WASHINGTON August 23, 1930 Respectfully returned to President, Board of Pension Commissioners, State of Louisiana, Baton Rouge, La. The records show that one Samuel Derosia, Co. H, 8th. Louisiana Infantry, C.S.A.,enlisted March 8, 1862, in Rapides Parish, La. Muster roll Nov. & Dec. 1862, shows him discharged on Surgeon's certificate of Disability, a Private. Other records show that he was discharged December 4, 1862, at Lynchburg, Va.,for disability, Irreducible Hernia, Double, a Private. /s/ C.H. Bridges, Major General, The Adjutant General, by T.C._______________________________________________________________ State of Louisiana, Office of Board of Pension Commissioners, Baton Rouge 19744-Derosier. September 3, 1930 Mrs. Cleophine Ortego Derosier, Route 4, box 4 % Ambroise Fontenot, Ville Platte, Louisiana Dear Madam: In your application for pension as the widow of Samuel Derosier, you state that your husband was discharged at Alexandria, La., for disability. What was the disability? The records show that one Samuel Derosia was a private in Co. H, 8th Louisiana Infantry, and that one Sam. Derosier was a private in Co. I, 2nd Louisiana Reserve Corps. Which of these two men was your husband? Was your husband a resident of St. Landry Parish or Rapides Parish at the time of the Civil War? Furnish proof of your answer to this question. How long was your husband away? Please state the nature of his service during that time, and and where he was located. Please give any other information that you think will help us to identify your husband in the service of the Confederate States. Affidavits by his army comrades, or men who knew him in the army, should be obtained and forwarded to this office. A prompt reply is necessary as the Board will meet in a very short time, and after that not again for three months. Yours very truly, (blank - signature space) Secretary. ____________________________________________________________________ Application Number: 19744 Name: Mrs. Cleophine Ortego Derosier, Widow of : Samuel Derosier Command: H, 8th La. Infantry, C.S.A. Record: Man of this name shown to have been discharged for disability. Affidavits: One by a veteran, one by the applicant. Remarks: The applicant claims that her husband was discharged at Alexandria, La., but the War Department's report above shows discharge for disability at Lynchburg, VA. information may have been copied from printed record to application. The printed records do not give the place of discharge. Symbol: p. d. ex. Result: September 8, 1930 /s/ W M Stirling, Secretary ______________________________________________________________ STATE OF LOUISIANA, PARISH OF EVANGELINE. Before me the undersigned Authority personally came and appeared, Mr. Benoit Soileau a resident of Evangeline Parish, State of Louisiana, who after having been by me duly sworn, deposes and says, that he was well acquainted with Mr. Samuel Derosier, and that the said Samuel Derosier served in the service of the Confederate States, during the Civil War of 1862, and that they were of the same Company, that he is now eighty-eight years of age, and cannot remember the name of their Captain, and he also knew that said Derosier was a resident of Rapides Parish at the time of his enlistment. /s/ X (his mark) Benoit Soileau Sworn to and subscribed before me, this 5th, day of September, A. D. 1930. Witnesses: /s/ Benoit Soileau, Jr.; /s/ Leo Lafleur /s/ L. Demomelle, Dy. Clerk of court & Ex-Officio Notary Public. ___________________________________________________________________ STATE OF LOUISIANA, PARISH OF EVANGELINE. Before me the undersigned Authority personally came and appeared, Cleophine Ortego Widow of Samuel Derosier, a resident of Evangeline Parish, State of Louisiana, who after having been by me duly sworn, deposes and says, that Samuel Derosier, her husband was was enrolled in March 1862 from the Parish of Rapides, and served as Private in Company H. 8th La., Infantry, and was discharged from the Army at Alexandria, La.,in December 1862, he was then suffering from A Rupture and Chronic Sore Throat, until his death. /s/ X (her mark) Mrs Cleophine Ortego Derosier Sworn to and subscribed before me, this 5th, day of September, A. D. 1930. Witnesses: /s/ L. Demomelle; /s/ Leo Lafleur /s/ F.C.Fontenot, Dy. Clerk of court & Ex-Officio Notary Public. _________________________________________________________________ State of Louisiana, Office of Board of Pension Commissioners, Baton Rouge 19744-Derosier. September 23, 1930 Mrs. Cleophine Ortego Derosier, Route 4, box 4 % Ambroise Fontenot, Ville Platte, Louisiana Dear Madam: Your application for pension, as the widow of Samuel Derosier, was rejected by this Board at the last meeting. One Samuel Derosier is shown to have served, and to have been discharged at Lynchburg, Va., for disability, but you state that your husband was discharged at Alexandria, La. One Sam. Derosier was a private in co. I, 2 La. Reserve Corps, but if this was your husband, his membership in such an organization would not make you eligible to receive a pension. Yours very truly, BOARD OF PENSION COMMISSIONERS, Secretary _________________________________________________________________ STATE OF Louisiana, PARISH OF EVANGELINE. Personally came and appeared Mrs. Cleophine Ortego Derosier, before me the undersigned authority, who after being duly sworn deposes and says; that in making her application for Pension, she told the Clerk of the Court Mr. F C. Fontenot that her husband Mr. Samuel Derosier was Discharged for Disability at Lynchburg, Va., and not at Alexandria, La., she said that he had enrolled at Alexandria, La.. /s/ X (her mark) Mrs. Cleophine Ortego Derosier Sworn to and subscribed before me this 25th day of September, A. D. 1930 /s/ Leo Lafleur, Dy Clerk of Court & Ex-Officio Notary Public. Witneess: (2 signatures unreadable) _________________________________________________________________ STATE OF LOUISIANA, PARISH OF EVANGELINE. Personally came and appeared before me, the undersigned authority, Mr. F.C. Fontenot, Clerk of Court who after being duly sworn deposes and says; that he made an error in filling the Application of Cleophine Ortego Derosier Widow of Samuel Derosia, that instead of putting his place of Discharge Lynchburg, Va. he F. C. Fontenot put Alexandria, La., and the reason for that he "had" Rapides Parish and Alexandria in mind, being that Samuel Derosier and enrolled from Rapides Parish. /s/ F. C. Fontenot Sworn to and subscribed before me, this 25th day of September, A. D. 1930 /s/ Leo Lafleur, Dy. Clerk of Court & Ex-Officio Notary Public. _________________________________________________________________ 19744 Ville Platte, La., November 10th, 1930. Board of Pension commissioners. Baton Rouge, La., Dear Sirs:- Sometime ago I had made some affidavits in the matter of the application for a pension of Mrs. Cleophine Ortego Derosier, after it had been rejected by the Board, and asking me to furnish proof to the service of Mr. Samuel Derosier, which I did. I would like to know if you all received those affidavits and what was done about it. Yours very truly, /s/ Mrs. Ambroise Fontenot _________________________________________________________________ Board of Pension Commissioners, State of Louisiana, P.O.Box 563, State Capitol, Baton rouge, Louisiana - W. M. Stirling, Secretary - Nov. 12, 1930 File 19744- Derosier. Mrs. Ambroise Fontenot, Ville Platte, Louisiana Dear Madam: Replying to your letter of November 10th, we wish to advise that we have Mrs. Derosier's application for pension on file for examination at the next meeting. With it we have an affidavit by Benoit Soileau, relative to Mr. Derosier's army service; and tow affidavits by Mrs. Derosier and one by the Clerk of Court, relative to the place of discharge of Mr. Derosier. We do not know if these are the affidavits you mention in your letter as having been forwarded to this office. Yours very truly, Board of Commissioners, /s/ W. M. Sterling, Secretary. 11/26/30 Gentlemen: referring to the letter above, I will say that the affidavits mentioned above are all the same which I referred to in my last letter, and wishing that you give your kind attentinon in the matter when the Board meets. Yours very truly. /s/ Mrs Ambroise Fontenot _________________________________________________________________ State of Louisiana, Office of Board of Pension Commissioners, Baton Rouge 19744-Derosier. April 1, 1931 Mrs. Cleophine Ortego Derosier, Route 4, box 4 % Ambroise Fontenot, Ville Platte, Louisiana Dear Madam: Your application for pension was again rejected on March 10th, for the reason that conclusive proof of your husband's service in the Confederate Army has not been furnished. It appears that your husband may have belonged to a company of reserves. However, his membership in such an organization would not make you eligible to receive a pension. Yours very truly, , Secretary. WMS/BS _________________________________________________________________