Greene County, NC - Court Records CARR VS HOLLIDAY – Supreme Court Case #2440 & 4310 Greene County NOTE: There are two different folders with two separate numbers for this case but it appears the papers in each are duplicates. This abstract was taken from #2440 but 4310 was checked briefly. In the folder 4310 the only difference I saw was TILGHMAN HOLLIDAY was referred to several times as JOHN HOLLIDAY and the date was 1847. It is possible that a close reading of the case would indicate that TILGHMAN HOLLIDAY had died but I noticed in the index cards there were several cases with the same names with different numbers. Time was a problem in reading the 2nd folder in detail. SARAH CARR guardian of ROBERT CARR a lunatic against TILGHMAN HOLLIDAY – filed 20 December 1835 ROBERT CARR was the son of ROBERT S. CARR dec and SARAH CARR – by the death of his father ROBERT CARR became entitled to property of a considerable estate consisting of land, Negroes and money – value of $10,000 to $12,000 – for sometime had symptoms of derangement and insanity – he became 21 years of age on 10 Jan 1829 – since becoming 21 he has been duped and taken advantage of and lead to intoxication in order to get his property TILGHMAN HOLLIDAY of Greene County continued to defraud him – HOLLIDAY purchased a Negro woman Pansey or Fanny and her child worth about $350, and a Negro man named Dempsy worth about $250 or $300 and 1/3 of a tract of land called Haw Landing worth about $400 or $500 for which HOLLIDAY only paid with a stud horse worth about $150 or $200, a Negro boy Henry aged 6 or 7 years worth $150, a note for $140 on a credit of 12 months, a note on NATHAN LASSITER for $60 or $70 and a judgement on WILLIAM POPE for $94.35 – SARAH CARR says this is insufficient consideration HOLLIDAY resold the Negro woman Pansey/Fannie and child back to said ROBERT CARR for $400 SARAH CARR asked HOLLIDAY in a friendly manner to cancel the contract andhe refused (there should be another page right here but it appears to be missing) HOLLIDAY answers – he says ROBERT not a lunatic – and he did not take advantage of him. HOLLIDAY sold ROBERT the stud horse first on a note and then ROBERT sold him the Negro boy Edmund to pay the note and the horse was worth $400 – Negro boy Edmund was worth $300 – then ROBERT sold Pansey/Fannie to HOLLIDAY – ROBERT had purchased a 1/3 part of Haw Landing using Pansey/Fannie as part payment (does not state from whom he purchased Haw Landing) NOTE: In places the name of the Negro woman looked like Pansey and in some Fannie HOLLIDAY says all property was worth Boy Edmund was deficient in eyesight and worth only $250 Dempsey was worth $400 1/3 of Haw Landing purchased for $400 sold for $300 – land was improved HOLLIDAY would take the stud horse back if SARAH would pay for the season ROBERT was declared a lunatic on 6 April 1829 and the transactions with HOLLIDAY were 10 Jan 1829 BEFORE ROBERT was declared a lunatic At this point in the case there were numerous depositions and from the number of them most everyone in that section of the county made a deposition and mostly said the same thing. Below are some of the people who gave a deposition UZZELL LASSITER – 19 Sept 1834 – indicated ROBERT did not stay sober very often – lived ½ mile from ROBERT ROBERT DIXON – said ROBERT had common sense THEOPHILUS GRIMSLEY – ROBERT had common sense when sober HENRY KNOX – lived with family for one year – ROBERT had common sense HENRY S. TAYLOR – lived no more than a mile from ROBERT who had common sense when sober WEST ELLIS – had good sense ALLEN CARR – common sense when sober JOHN TURNAGE – lived ¼ mile from ROBERT – had common sense when sober which was not often DICK H. WILLIAM – common sense when sober JESSE GRIMSLEY – common sense when sober HENRY WILLIAMS – common sense when sober ROBERT E. ALLEN – knew father from the time he was 10 years old WYATT MOYE – questioned his mental ability RUFFIN GRAINGER – thought him deranged - in 1820 when he taught ROBERT at school in Sandy Run he was ok – 3 years later he was drunk THOMAS MOORE – mind not sound BLANA BRAND – not good mind HENRY DAIL – in sound mind – knew the family and as a child ROBERT was not of as good a mind as his brother LEWIS ?? CHARLES JOINER – not capable EASON JOINER – lived 3 miles from him – lived with SARAH CARR for awhile in 1832 and he died in 1833 (assume he was referring to ROBERT S. CARR) MICAJAH HART – did not know him well but he was a drunk WILLIAM SILABINT?? – not of sound mind FLETCHER ORMOND – did not know him well JOHN EASON – not of sound mind GATSY SILAVANT – weak minded LOUIZA EASON – not sure what to think WILLIAM G. HUDSON – was a WIT to the various Bills of Sale and did not see anything out of the ordinary – lived at Haws Landing at time of sale – stated that HOLLIDAY did make improvements – HOLLIDAY did not get CARR drunk – sometimes ROBERT was rations and sometimes not – lived with HOLLIDAY before moving to Haw Landing HENRY MILLER – never saw him perfectly sober WADE BUTTS – did not know him well WILLIAM ORMOND – never sober THEOPHILUS DAIL – did not know him well HENRY DAIL – not well acquainted BLANEY TURNAGE – not capable There were many other deposition but all said the same thing At the end of the case it states that ROBERT CARR is deceased but it is not clear if he died before or during the case. Ruth Fentress sent this from the NC Reports From The NC Reports: " On 12 May 1830, Sarah Carr filed present bill to have the property returned, etc. After filing of the bill, Robert Carr died, & Sarah adm. on his estate. Judge Daniel: Court delares Robert Carr was a lunatic. Verdict: Direct a reference I just searched my NC Reports booklet and found in BOOK 40, p. 167, SARAH CARR v. JNO HOLLIDAY, Greene(?) Dec. 1847. Case under consideration of this Court June 1836, Robert Carr a lunatic. Bill seeks to rescind certain contracts entered into between the intestate Robert Carr and the Deft. Bill dismissed with cost. _________________________________________________________________________ USGENWEB NOTICE: In keeping with our policy of providing free information on the Internet, data may be used by non-commercial entities, as long as this message remains on all copied material. The electronic pages may NOT be reproduced in any format for profit or for presentation by other persons or organizations. Persons or organizations desiring to use this material for purposes other than stated above must obtain the written consent of the file contributor, and contact the listed USGenWeb archivist with proof of this consent. 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