Sampson County, NC - Crumpler and Holmes Families ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JOHN CRUMPLER and ARCHIBALD HOLMES The connection between these two families is sure. We will try to lay it out as good as we can as of this date. The connection of Nancy Holmes to John Crumpler Sr. is not fully proven. We believe that John Crumpler (c1724-1782) married Nancy Holmes (c1731- c1780) in 1750 in the county of Isle of Wight Virginia. At least three of their children, Jacob, John Jr. (c1754-1803), and Sarah Crumpler were born in Virginia or somewhere in between. John first registered a land grant in Duplin-Sampson in 1756 and witnessed a deed in 1755. The first record in Cumberland for Archibald Holmes (c1736-1779) is 1757 where he witnessed a deed. We believe that Archibald was the younger brother of Nancy Holmes. Archibald Holmes married about 1762 Margaret McCullough Livingston. She was the widow of Joseph Livingston. They had James Holmes, Mary McKethan, and Hannah Hadley; James m. Mary or Polly Dick; Hannah b. May 13, 1768 m. ___ Hadley; Mary m. McKethan. Meanwhile, by 1770 John Crumpler and Nancy Holmes had five more children, Rachel, Nancy, Grace, Elizabeth, and Micajah Crumpler. All these were born in what is now Sampson County. Around 1780, Margaret Holmes died and Archibald married Elizabeth ___, born about 1760. Children born of this married were Archibald Jr. (1783-1862), Jane (1786-1848), George (1788-1850+), Margaret "Peggy" (1792-1859), and Sarah Holmes (1794-1870). Archibald Jr. married Mary Elizabeth Turner; Jane married on December 1, 1808 Blackman Crumpler (1784-1868); Margaret married in 1806 John Crumpler (1775-1830) the son of Matthew Crumpler; Sarah Holmes married Redman Crumpler (1788-c1846). Will of Archibald Holmes In the Name of God Amen. I Archibald Holmes of the County of Cumberland of State of North Carolina being weak in body, but of sound memory (blessed by God) do this Day make and publish this my first Will and Testament in manner following (That is to Say) - First I give my Son Jas the (Negro Virgil); and Negro Tom I give for the use and service of my wife Elizabeth Holmes until my son Archibald is of age, then Tom is to be equally Shared between Mary McKethan and Hannah Hadley, and then Negro Jack to come in Tom's room and remain and continue with my wife Elizabeth for life, and after her Decease; the said Negro Jack to be equally Divided between my sons Arch'd and George; also I give Negroes Rose and Hanna to my wife during her natural life, and after her decease the aforesaid Negro girls and their issue if there will be any I order to be equally divided among all my wife's children - Archibald and Jean and Peggy, George, and Sarrah and also the land wherein I now live I give to my wife During her natural life and after her Decease the said land to be equally divided between my sons Archibald and George Holmes. Also I give my Wife Elizabeth Holmes all household stuff and furniture and all the utensils belong to me on the plantation all to be at her Disposal as she thinks proper; also all the rest and Residue of my Chattels & Personal Estate whatsoever I give to my said Wife Elizabeth Holmes and I make & ordain her my said Wife sole Administratrix of this my Will in Trust for the intents and purposes in this my Will contained, & in Witness Whereof I the said Archibald Holmes have to this my Will and Testament set my Hand & Seal, the 22nd Day of July 1796. /s/ Archibald Holmes (Seal) Archibald Holmes Sr. died in 1797. John Crumpler Sr. died in 1782. John Crumpler was a documented patriot of the American Revolution and his descendants can join the DAR under his name. Elizabeth Holmes was living in 1800 and she apparently died before the probate as she was not listed. Probate: 1807 - And that we have allotted and delivered over said Slaves at their several valuations to the heirs as follows. Rose to Jane Holmes, Jack to George Holmes, Grace to John Crumpler & his wife Margaret, Tom to Archibald Holmes & George to Sarah Holmes, making those who have the more valuable dividends chargeable to those of inferior values, and the said several Sums on account of the more valuable Dividends to bear interest from the date of this division, to wit: Jane Holmes to pay into the hands of Robert Dyer, Guardian for Sarah Holmes, the sum of eighty four dollars. George Holmes by his Guardian Archibald Holmes on account of his more valuable dividend to pay into the hands of Robert Dyer, Guardian of Sarah Holmes, twelve dollars. The said Archibald Holmes, Guardian aforesaid, to his brother George to pay to John Crumpler the husband of Margaret Holmes, Sixty six dollars an amount of said George's more valuable dividend and further that the said George's more valuable dividend pay to his Brother's Guardian Archibald Holmes the sum of Sixty six dollars, the Balance due of his more valuable dividend. The committee observed that they have proceeded no further in dividing the residue of the Estate which consists of some cattle and household stuff as there are some debts against the Estate which are unsatisfied and as they conceive will about take that property to satisfy the same. --Given under our hands & Seals March the Second day 1807. /s/ John Dickson John Crumpler Jr. (1754-1803) was a well to do farmer and he married Elizabeth Blackman around 1783, she had Blackman Crumpler (1784-1868), he married Jane Holmes. His second son was Redman Crumpler (1788- c1846), he married Sarah Holmes, a daughter Bethsheba Sutton was born in 1893, Elizabeth died in 1799 or early 1800. John married Edith Gurley of Wayne County in late 1800 and she had William Gurley Crumpler and John Ballard Crumpler before John Crumpler Jr. died on May 12, 1803. The above Blackman Crumpler had a son named Archibald and a second Archibald Crumpler appears to have been the youngest son and 11th child of John and Margaret Crumpler. Matthew Crumpler, who we cannot tie to John Crumpler Sr. was born about 1743 and he died about 1812. He was not listed in the Will of John Crumpler Sr. He had sons Raiford Crumpler, Matthew Crumpler Jr., and John Crumpler. We believe also that Matthew had a daughter Lucy c1786- who married John Butler and moved to Georgia. Raiford and Matthew Crumpler Jr. moved to Tennessee about 1812. John Crumpler married Margaret Holmes in 1806. John was elected Sheriff of Sampson County in 1812 and he held the Job for about 10 years. John and Margaret Crumpler had 10 children three of which married Crumpler cousins. John Crumpler died on 23 Feb. 1830. Sophia Crumpler, a daughter of John married John Royal, they had Melissa Adeline Royal and she married Isham "Shadyback" McLamb, the father of Aulcy B. McLamb, my (Jerome's) grandfather. The question then arises, what was the connection between John Crumpler Sr. and Matthew Crumpler Sr.? Matthew was too old to be a son of John Crumpler Sr. and was not is his Will. The connection is sure because the two families married into the same family. Nancy Holmes, the wife of John Crumpler Sr., must be a common link. Therefore, Matthew Crumpler Sr. must be the younger brother of John Crumpler Sr. The real question now is, who was the father of John Crumpler Sr. and Matthew Crumpler Sr.? By: Mary Harper and Jerome Tew 1. James Holmes m. Mary "Polly" Dick a. Samuel A. Holmes b. 1807 NC, a lawyer; m. Frances Ann Bragg in Tipton Co., TN on 17 Dec 1871. b. James D. Holmes b. 1809 NC; m. Elizabeth c. Joshua H. Holmes d. Elizabeth L. Holmes b. 1817; m. James Dean in AR. e. Hannah Holmes m. James Hadley in AR. (Susanne's line) f. Mary A. Holmes b. 1822; m. William Mack in AR. g. John L. Holmes b. 1825/30. 2. Hannah Holmes b. 13 May 1768; m. Hadley 3. Mary Holmes m. McKeithen I found your query on the 1997 Cumberland County Query Index. I too am a descendant of Archibald HOLMES, but from his first marriage to Margaret McCULLOUGH. Margaret McCULLOUGH m (1) Joseph LIVINGSTON who died in Cumberland Co. NC between Dec 1761 (will written) and Feb 1762 (will probated). They had children Robert LIVINGSTON and Margaret LIVINGSTON (child that wife Margaret was with at the time Joseph LIVINGSTON wrote his will). Dau. Margaret m. John HADLEY. Joseph LIVINGSTON also had a daughter from a previous marriage named Mary who probably married a McKeithen. This Mary is named in Joseph LIVINGSTON's will and a Mary McKeithen witnessed the transaction of a land sale from Margaret LIVINGSTON to her brother ROBERT. I believe that a Mary McKEITHEN is also mentioned in Archibald HOLMES will. Margaret McCULLOUGH m. (2) Archibald HOLMES and had at least one child Hannah HOLMES who married Capt. Joshua HADLEY. Both Joshua HADLEY and his brother John HADLEY moved to Middle Tennessee. Joshua Hadley and Hannah Holmes dau Amelia married her double first cousin John Livingston HADLEY son of John Hadley and Margaret Livingston. I am a descendant of this marriage. I also would like to know more about Archibald HOLMES. I have no information about his parents and know little about his first wife Margaret McCULLOUGH. Her name has been passed down through the HADLEY records. I am willing to share what little information I have. Can you provide any other information? Sincerely, Virginia Rizor Bean Jerome, the following information will be of interest to you, I'm sure. It has really filled in some gaps in the Holmes story. This information proves that Margaret Livingston was the WIFE of Joseph Livingston. She was a McCullough before she married Joseph, thus her maiden name is McCullough. Notice that the unborn daughter of Joseph Livingston that Margaret was carrying when the will was made was named "Margaret" which created the confusion in the deed below. It was Margaret the daughter of Joseph Livingston who deeded property to her brother Robert Livingston. Will of Joseph LIVINGSTON dated 12/12/1761, probated Feb 1762 Cumberland Co. NC Item: I give an bequeath to the child my beloved wife Margaret is now with, be it male or female, the lower part of my said plantation where I now live, that is to say 240 Acres of land that I purchased from James Nichols and it is my will that in case the said child should die before it arrives to lawful age of should die without lawful heirs that in that case the one-half of said land should be to my son Robert, the other half of said land to my daughter Mary LIVINGSTON, living on Roanoke. Cumberland County Record Book 7 p. 114. 2 Jan 1792, Margaret LIVINGSTON (b. 1762) conveyed 16 acres of land to Robert LIVINGSTON, consideration: 80 pounds current money. Cumberland County Record Book 7 p. 70. 15 Feb 1782. Robert LIVINGSTON conveyed 16 acres of land to William MATHIS and John MCKAY. Consideration: 100 pounds current money. In describing the metes and bounds of this land, it is stated: "land bequeathed and confirmed to Margaret LIVINGSTON by her father Joseph LIVINGSTON in his last will and testament duly executed and bearing date the 12th day of December 1761, and the said Margaret LIVINGSTON bargained, sold, conveyed and confirmed the said 16 acres of land to her brother the said Robert LIVINGSTON by a deed duly executed and bearing date the 4th day of January 1782." A Mary McKETHAN witnessed the transfer of land from Margaret LIVINGSTON to Robert LIVINGSTON. The Mary McKethan, above witness to the transfer of land, is the same Mary mentioned by Archibald Holmes in his will. She was the daughter or step-daughter of Margaret (Archibald's first wife). Mary may have been the daughter of Joseph Livingston by another marriage, because she was living in Roanoke not with him and his wife, however, she could have been the child of both Margaret and Joseph. Archibald Holmes drew two RW pay vouchers. ___________________________________________________________________ Copyright. All rights reserved. http://www.usgwarchives.net/copyright.htm This file was contributed for use in the USGenWeb Archives by Jerome Tew ___________________________________________________________________