Elisha Leslie

Edith L. Crawford 

Carrizozo, N. Mex. Interview

Oct 17 1938	 2nd

Date: October 14, 1938. 

Words: 1247 

Topic: Pioneer Story 

Source of Information: 

Elisha Leslie. 

I was born February 14, 1873, in Dublin, Erath County, Texas, and came to New 
Mexico when I was ten years old. I have lived in Lincoln County about fifty-
three years. 

My father, Robert Leslie, was born in Fulton County, Georgia, May 17, 1853. My 
mother, Elizabeth Ward, was born in Georgia, (I do not know the town or 
county) January 6, 1857. 

My parents were married about the year 1871 in Dublin, Texas. I do not know 
when they came to Texas. My father owned a farm near Dublin Texas, and raised 
corn, small grains, potatoes, and had a small bunch of cattle and a few 
horses. 

My father had some big heavy teams and sometimes used them in doing 
construction work. I know that at one time he had four teams at work for a 
rail-road company, but I do not remember just where this was. My father met a 
man by the name of Jack Farr, who came down into Texas from Lincoln County, 
New Mexico. He was always telling my father what a great country New Mexico 
was and wanted to sell my father a ranch that he had in Lincoln County. 

In the spring of 1883 my father decided to sell out his farm near Dublin 
Texas, and move to Lincoln County. Two other men that he knew wanted to come 
too, so these three men, my father, a man by the name of Dink Arthurs, and a 
man named Yorke, (I have forgotten his other name), decided to set out for 
Lincoln County. They had three covered wagons, one to each family. In our 
family there was my father and mother, myself, Lura, Jim and Callie. (A 
brother, Leech, had died in Texas several years before.) There was Mr. and 
Mrs. Arthurs and one boy and one girl. 

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Mr. and Mrs. Yorke had no children. My father and the other two men decided to 
drive their cattle through. The other two men hired two men, brothers, named 
Carter and I made a hand for my father. We three rode horseback and looked 
after the cattle, about 200 head. 

Each wagon had their own provisions and each family did their own cooking over 
a camp fire. The woman and children slept in the wagons and the men slept on 
the ground. Each wagon had their own chuck box and water kegs. The only fresh 
meat that we had on the trip were prairie chickens and antelope that we shot 
on the way. We did not see any Indians or buffalo and we had no serious 
trouble. We grazed the cattle along and when we would come to good grass and 
water we would sometimes stay an long as a week. 

We crossed the Pacos river at Fort Patches. We had heard so much about the 
quicksands on this river and how dangerous it was to cross it that my father 
got a pilot to guide us across. We got all three wagons and all the cattle 
across without any serious trouble. 

Billy the Kid had not been dead very long and we went out to see his grave. My 
father had met Billy the Kid at a railroad construction camp but did not know 
him well. 

From Fort Patches we went down to Roswell and up the Hondo river through the 
Mescalero Indian reservation, through Tularosa and on over to Weed, New 
Mexico. 

We got to Weed in the fall of 1883. We were on the road about three months. 
The two Carter boys left us at Weed and I do not know what became of them. The 
Arthurs family stayed in New Mexico only a year or so and went back to Texas. 

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The Yorkes lived around Weed for several years and the last I heard of them 
they were still in the Penasco country, in New Mexico. 

My father stayed in Weed only about a month and then decided to go to the Farr 
Ranch, which is about eight miles from White Oaks, New Mexico, and is now 
known as the Felix Guebara Ranch. 

We drove our cattle from Weed, through the mountains, to the Farr Ranch. We 
stayed there at this ranch all that winter. In the spring of 1884 my father 
filed on a homestead at the foot of the Tuscon Mountains. My sister Callie 
died during the winter that we were at the Farr ranch. 

After we had lived on the homestead for several years my father bought a small 
place in White Oaks and stayed there during the fell and winter and sent us 
children to school there. After school was out in the spring we would go back 
to the homestead. It was near enough for my father to go back and forth to the 
homestead all the time and see how things were getting along. 

One winter I got tired of going to school and decided that I would get out on 
my own, so I ran away from White Oaks and went out to the Block Ranch and 
hired out as a bronc buster. I was about seventeen, I guess then. I was a good 
rider and not afraid to tackle any kind of horse. I worked for the Block 
outfit for about five years. It was owned then by two brothers, Andy and Mel 
Richardson. 

About 1894 I went to Arizona. I opened a meat market at Springerville, 
Arizona. I was married there in 1895 to Minnie English. After I married I went 
to work for a man named Harris Miller, who owned a ranch near Springerville. I 
worked for his for about three years. While I was working for him, breaking 
wild horses, a horse fell on me and crushed me up pretty badly. 

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I was in a hospital at St. Johns, Arizona, for more than six weeks. As soon as 
I was able to travel again I came back to my father's place in the Tuscon 
mountains. I know that my days of breaking horses was over. 

I homesteaded on a place of my own not very far from my father's place. I 
raised a few cattle and horses and did some dry farming. My wife and I had 
four children, Ruby, Walker, Lura and Alma. When Alma was about three months 
old my wife died. This was about 1920. My mother-in-law, Mrs. George English 
took my children to care for. Mr. and Mrs. English lived on a place about a 
mile from our place. 

About 1923 I moved in to Carrizozo New Mexico and opened up a meat market. I 
brought my three oldest children with me and sent them to school. Ruby, the 
oldest girl kept house for me. 

In 1933, I was married to Mrs. Ruby Wright, of Albuquerque, New Mexico. In 
1934 we moved to White Oaks and I bought the place that my father had owned 
there, and my wife and I still own it and live there. 

My father died in February, 1932, and my mother died just a month later, March 
17, 1932, in White Oaks, New Mexico. Both are buried there. My parents had ten 
children, five of whom are still living here in New Mexico, one in Colorado, 
and four are dead. The names of the children who are living are, Elisha, Lura, 
Robert, Ward, Ben and Ellis. My brother Ward still lives on the old place that 
my father homesteaded in 1864. 

NARRATOR: Elisha Leslie, Aged 65 years. White Oaks, New Mexico. 

Edith L. Crawford, 

Carrizozo, N. Mex. 

Corrections on PIONEER STORY of Elisha Leslie. Page 1, paragraph 5 My mother 
and father has ten children, Elisha, Lure, Leech, Jim and Callie were born in 
Texas. Robert, Ward, Ben, Jesse and Ellis, were born In New Mexico. Leech died 
before we moved from Texas to New Mexico. Callie died the first winter we 
lived in New Mexico, late in the year 1883. My brother Jim died about the year 
1889, and Jesse was killed in an automobile accident about the year 1929, all 
died in New Mexico, except Leech. Page 2, paragraph 4. Billy the Kid's grave 
in at Fort Sumner New Mexico, DeBaca County. Page 2, paragraph 5. Weed, New 
Mexico, in low in Otero County, in the Sacramento Mountains, about four miles 
southeast of Cloudcroft, New Mexico. When we came to this country in 1883, all 
of the places mentioned were in Lincoln County at that time. Page 3, paragraph 
1. The Penasco country referred to in this story was formed by a group of 
ranchers who settled on a small dry creek, called Penasco Creek. It is in the 
Sacramento Mountains and at that time in Lincoln County. Page 3, paragraph 3. 
Our homestead was in Lincoln County, in the Tuscon Mountains, about eight 
miles southwest of White Oaks, New Mexico, and about fourteen miles northwest 
of Capitan, New Mexico. 

Credit: Library of Congress, Manuscript Division, WPA Federal Writers' Project 
Collection.

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