FAMILY GENEALOGY: Mabie/Mabee/Maybee Family of New York Copyright (c) 1999 by Steve Mabie (S Mabie@aol.com). ************************************************************************ USGENWEB NOTICE: These electronic pages may NOT be reproduced in any format for profit or presentation by any other organization or persons. Persons or organizations desiring to use this material, must obtain the written consent of the contributor, or the legal representative of the submitter, and contact the listed USGenWeb archivist with proof of this consent. The submittor has given permission to the USGenWeb Archives to store the file permanently for free access. ************************************************************************ A Chronology of MABIE/MABEE/MAYBEE Records For the First Three Generations in North America Prepared by Steve Mabie. Last Revised: 9/14/1999 All records contained in this file are verified, primary records that document the first three generations of the Mabie/Mabee/Maybee family in North America. Each child (for baptisms) has been assigned a unique number, based on their parents and their order of birth. For example, since Jan Pieterse was the second child of his generation, he is #2. His son Pieter, the third born, is #2-3, while Abraham is #2-7. Each succeeding generation adds one digit. PLEASE NOTE: All names are spelled as found in the original records. Therefore, a global search of this file by name will not necessarily locate the appropriate records. Also note that patronymic names were frequently used in lieu of surnames in these records. Each church record is identified as a Marriage or a Baptism. Each church, for which records are included in this file, is identified by a unique number, as follows: 01 = The Reformed Dutch Church of New Amsterdam (later New York) 03 = The Records of the French Church in New York 10 = The Reformed Dutch Church of Albany, NY 11 = The Schenectady Reformed Dutch Church, NY 91 = The Reformed Church of Hackensack, NJ In addition to the church records, wills have been included, where they are available. Generation #1: Pieter Casparszen van Naerden. All we really know about the parentage of Pieter Casparszen van Naerden is that his father was named Caspar, and that he was born in a place that was either called or sounded like Naerden. There are no records of Pieter Casparszen ever using any surname. In fact, the first use of the Mabie surname in any form by proven members of his family occurred in New York in 1687. A search of the records for the Dutch Reformed Church in Naarden, Noord Holland, has proved fruitless. It has long been speculated that Pieter was of French extraction (a Huguenot), with the name Mabie having been derived from the French name Mabille. This story originated in an unpublished work by E. C. Marshall in the 1890s. In his paper, Marshall merely speculated that this was a possibility, and never made a claim of any factual support. However, almost every succeeding published genealogy has claimed this as a fact. While it is possibly true, it is wholly without any substantiation. The one location in Europe that did have people with the Mabie surname prior to 1650, as demonstrated in various records, was Scotland. The Mabie surname appears to have surfaced in Scotland shortly after the Norman invasion. So, perhaps the name is originally from France after all. However, there may have been a few detours en route to New Amsterdam The name of Pieter Casparszen van Naerden appears in a few records that have survived the years. He is listed in a 1660 census of New Amsterdam. In 1657, he was listed as a "Small Burgher", a status which conveyed certain rights to the individual. In 1653, he was named as one "of the most influential citizens and inhabitants of this city" in the council minutes. Also, in 1653, he was a corporal in the Burgher Corps of New Amsterdam. In 1652, he was sued by a Jacob Stoffelsen, although the details of the suit have not survived. In 1656, he was a witness to a secret land transaction in which the West India Company purchased land from the Native Americans on the west bank of the "South River" (now the Delaware). This land had already been settled by the Swedes, and this transaction was used to justify an attack on their settlements. From the baptismal records of the New Amsterdam Reformed Dutch Church, we know that Pieter was in New Amsterdam by February 1647, and that he was still alive in December 1662. A census of New Amsterdam conducted in June 1665 lists Aechtje Jans, the widow of Pieter Casparszen van Naerden, so we know he was deceased by that time. The first time that Pieter Casparszen van Naerden's name appears in any New Amsterdam records is in 1647. On February 17th of that year, he was a witness at the baptism of Hendrick, a son of Abraham Ryck. In passing, it is also known that a Pierre Gaspar signed the so-called Leyden Petition in 1621, a copy of which can be found on line at: http://www.primenet.com/~langford/places/va621001.htm#Walloons In this documet certain Walloons and French petitioned, in 1621, the "Lord Ambassador of the Most Serene King of Great Britain" to allow them to settle in Virginia. The answer was to approve such a settlement in Virginia, providing that the settlers would take an oath of allegiance to the English king. However, if this is the same person as Pieter Casparszen van Naerden, then the questions arise as to why he apparently waited approximately 25 years to go, and why he did not go to an English colony as planned. Once again, there is no substantive evidence that Pieter Casparszen van Naerden and this Pierre Gaspar are the same person. Before her marriage to Pieter Casparszen van Naerden, Aechtje Jans was previously married. The following records from the New Amsterdam Reformed Dutch Church (RDC) record her marriage and the baptisms of her two children by her first husband: 4/27/1647 Marriage: (01) Abraham Willemszen, j. m. Van Amsterd, en Aechtje Jans, j. d. Van Norden. 8/ 2/1648 Baptism: (01) Willem, parents: Abraham Willemszen, no mother listed; witnesses: Jan Willemszen Van Amsterd., Jan Dirckszen Van Amsterdam, Grietie Hermans, and Mary Geeraer NOTE: This child, Willem Abrahmszen, later used the surname Tietsoort. 4/10/1650 Baptism: (01) Abraham, parents: Abraham Willemszen, Aechtie Jans; witnesses: Arie Dirckszen, Pieter Casparszen, Mary Claes, Janneken Jans NOTE: There are no further records of this child Abraham, indicating that he died young. The last time that Aechtje Jans was a witness to a baptism was in December 1689 (for Caspar's son Pieter). Because of this, it had been accepted that she died shortly after this date. However, New York City tax records demonstrate that she was still alive and living with the family of her daughter Metje, on 8/21/1697. Her name is not on the tax list from 2/1/1698. Therefore, she appears to have died in that time frame. There is no record of a marriage between Pieter Casparszen van Naerden and Aechtje Jans, which would have taken place in late 1650 or 1651. It must be noted, however, that the record of marriages for the New Amsterdam RDC does not appear complete, since only 3 marriages, all from December, are included for 1651, the most likely year of their marriage. With regard to this first generation and the traditional Mabie genealogy, there is one last baptism of note: a baptism on 11/6/1650 in which one witness' name is "Casper Sergiant". While this is the only New Amsterdam RDC baptismal record of a "Casper the Sergeant", it is not the only such record of a person by that name. Every indication is that "Casper the Sergeant" is none other than Casper Stienmetz (Casper the Stone Mason), whose name appears frequently in the records, and who was also in the Militia, first as a corporal, then as a sergeant. Casper Stienmetz is not at all related to the Mabie family. Thus, the story that the ancestor of Pieter Casparszen was Casper the Sergeant, which had been based primarily on this record and the fact that the father of Pieter Casparszen had to have been named Caspar, appears to be false. At the very least this record provides no support for that story. Generation #2: The Children of Pieter Casparszen van Naerden. Pieter Casparszen van Naerden and Aechtje Jans had 6 children. The baptisms for these children are all recorded: 9/12/1652 Baptism: (01) Marritien (1), parents: Pieter Casparszen, no mother listed; witnesses: Adriaen Dirckszen, Marritie Lievens, Lysbeth Cregiers 10/4/1654 Baptism: (01) Jan (2), parents: Pieter Van Naerden, no mother listed; witnesses: Hendrick Willemszen, Marritie Claes 9/6/1656 Baptism: (01) Engeltje (3), parents: Pieter Van Naerden, Aeghtie Jans; witnesses: Reynout Reynoutszen, Jannetie Jans 4/14/1658 Baptism: (01) Metje (4), parents: Pieter Van Naerden, Aegtie Jans; witnesses: Jacob Kip, Marritje Adriaens 2/15/1660 Baptism: (01) Casper (5), parents: Pieter van Naerden, Aechtje Jans; witnesses: Marie Boele, ( ) Naerden NOTE: the blank indicates that part of a witness's name is missing 12/17/1662 Baptism: (01) Tryntie (6), parents: Pieter Casparszen Van Naerden, Aefje Jans; witness: Sara Pieters Generation #3: The Grandchildren of Pieter Casparszen van Naerden and Aechtje Jans. Below is a chronological listing of all of the marriage (for the children) and baptism records for the grandchildren of Pieter Casparszen van Naerden. Note that there are no children of daughter Tryntie (6) included in this file (see bottom of file for explanation). 4/8/1671 Marriage: (01) Jan Pieterszen, j. m., en Marritje Pieters (1), j. d. Van N. Jorck. NOTE: This Jan Pieterszen is also known as Jan Pieterse Brandt 8/21/1672 Baptism: (01) Margrietie (1-1), parents: Jan Pieterszen and Marritie Pieters; witnesses: Pieter Hermanszen, Johannes Albertus, Lysbeth Jans 2/4/1674 B (01) Pieter (1-2), parents: Jan Pieterszen and Marritie Pieters witnesses: Thomas Lodowycszen, Geesje Barents 9/12/1675 Marriage: (01) Jan Janszen Moll, j. m. Van Amsterd., en Engeltje Pieters (3), j. d. Van N. Yorke, beyde woonende tot N. Yorke. 20 Nov. in de Esopus. NOTE: Ship passenger lists show that Jan Janszen Mol came to New York on board the ship De Bonte Koe (the Spotted Cow) in April 1660. 3/29/1676 Baptism: (01) Johannes (1-3), parents: Jan Pieterszen and Marie Pieters; witnesses: Willem Waldron, Geesje Barents 5/23/1677 Baptism: (01) Pieter (3-1), parents: Jan Janszen Mol and Engeltie Pieters; witnesses: Otto Gerritszen, Aecht Jans 8/25/1678 Baptism: (01) Annetie (3-2), parents: Jan Pieterszen and Engeltie Pieterszen; witnesses: Jacob Abrahamszen, Adriaentie Pieters 10/1/1679 Baptism: (01) Judith (1-4), parents: Jan Pieterszen Bandt and Maria Pieters; witnesses: Willem Albertus, Grietie Hendricx 9/29/1680 Baptism: (01) Maria (3-7), parents: Jan Janszen Mol and Engeltie Pieters; witnesses: Lucas Tienhoven, Tryntie Pieters 9/3/1681 Baptism: (01) Margariet (4-1), parents: Jan Peroy and Metje Jans; witness: Aecht Jans NOTE: No record of Metje's marriage has been found. 11/26/1681 Baptism: (01) Marritie (1-5), parents: Jan Pieterszen and Marie witnesses: Adriaen Dirckszen, Rebecca Trisch 2/18/1682 Baptism: (01) Abraham (3-3), parents: Jan Janszen Mol and Engeltie Pieters; witnesses: Hendrick Jilliszen, Tryntie Pieters 8/22/1683 Baptism: (01) Anna Catharyn (4-2), parents: Jan Peru and Metie Pieters; witnesses: Hendrick Jansz. Van Veerde, Tryntie Pieters 1/30/1684 Baptism: (01) Jacobus (3-4), parents: Jan Janszen Mol and Engeltie Pieters; witnesses: Hendrick Kermer, Lucas Tienhoven, Tryntie Pieters 2/15/1684 Baptism: (01) Simon (1-6), parents: Jan Pieterszen and Marritie Pieters; witnesses: Francois Rombout, Hadduwina Vandenhoven 8/19/1685 Baptism: (01) Willem (1-7), parents: Jan Pieterszen and Marritie Pieters; witness: Catharina Thomas 1/20/1686 Baptism: (10) Pieter (2-3), parents: Jan Pietersz., no mother listed; witnesses: Abraham van Trigt, Lysbeth Van Trigt. NOTE: The surviving Albany RDC records start in August 1683. It is clear from later marriage records that, prior to Pieter (probably prior to August 1683), Jan and his wife Anna Borsboom had two daughters, Eva (2-1) and Margrietje (2-2) 4/21/1686 Baptism: (01) Aefje (3-5), parents: Jan Janszen Moll and Engeltje Pieters; witnesses: Jacob Boelen, Jan Pieterszen, Tryntie Pieters NOTE: Died young. See 3-8 below. 11/18/1687 Marriage: (01) Caspar Pieterszen Neby (5), j. m. Van N. Yorck, Lysbeth Schuermans, j. d. Van Santfort, beyde wonende alhier. 14 dict. NOTE: Actual marriage on 12/14/1687 4/8/1688 Baptism: (01) Johannes (3-6), parents: Jan Mol and Engeltie Pieters; witnesses: Assuerus Hendrickszen, Jan Pieterszen, Marritje Pieters 4/16/1688 Baptism: (01) Meynart (1-8), parents: Jan Pieterszen Bant and Marritje Pieters; witnesses: Jacobus Janszen Kock, Janneken Joris 2/24/1689 Baptism: (01) Pieter (4-3), parents: John Piroo and Metje Pieters; witnesses: Caspar Pieterszen, Aechtie Jans NOTE: Died young. See 4-5 below. 12/26/1689 Baptism: (01) Pieter (5-1), parents: Caspar Pietersz. Mevi and Lysbeth Schuermans; witnesses: Jeremias Hagenaer, Aecht Jans 8/10/1690 Baptism: (01) Maria (4-4), parents: Jan Piroo and Metje Meby; witnesses: Hendrick Jacobszen, Lysbeth Forman NOTE: Died young. See 4-7 below. 9/8/1690 Baptism: (01) Aefje (3-8), parents: Jan Janszen Moll and Engeltje Abrahams; witnesses: Wilhelm Abrahamszen, Lysbeth Schuurman 12/28/1690 Baptism: (01) Lysbeth (1-9), parents: Jan Pieterszen Bant and Marritje Fredricx; witnesses: Frans Goderus, Anna Schepmoes NOTE: The mother's name is apparently a mis-entry. This child, Lysbeth, appears to have been named after Caspar's wife, whose patronymic was Fredricx 5/1/1692 Baptism: (01) Isaacq (3-9), parents: Jan Janszen Mol and Engeltie Pieters; witness: Annetie Thomas 6/30/1692 Baptism: (01) Christyntie (5-2), parents: Fredrick Symonszen and Lysbeth Meby; witness: Fredrick Suurmont NOTE: The only Lysbeth Meby known to be in New Amsterdam at this time was Caspar's wife.It is unknown why the name Fredrick Symonszen appears as the father in this record, but Christyntie's birth in this time frame is confirmed by her marriage in 1712. Also, the only Frederick Symonszen to appear in the church records was married to Lea Fonteyn. 8/24/1692 Baptism: (03) Pierre (4-5), parents: Jean Pierro and Meta Meby; witnesses: Francois Vincent, Elizabeth Gautier 3/19/1693 Baptism: (01) Johanna (1-10), parents: Jan Pietersz Bandt and Maria Jans; witnesses: Wydt Timmer, Johanna Leeuwis 4/16/1693 Baptism: (10) Annetje (2-6), parents: Jan Pieterse Mebi and Antje P. Bosboom; witnesses: Jan Hendriksz. Vrooman, Cornelia Pietersz. Van Olinda. NOTE: Between Pieter (2-3) and Annetje (2-6), Jan and Anna had two other children whose baptisms have not survived: Jacob (2-4) and Tryntje (2-5). An examination of the original records of the Schenectady Reformed Church confirms that, in Pearson's "First Settler's of Schenectady", Jacob's birth and baptismal dates are not correctly identified. .Since virtually all previous genealogies have relied on Pearson's data for Jacob, they are incorrect. 12/29/1693 Baptism: (03) Jacob (4-6), parents: Jean Pierret and Marthe Mebe; witnesses: Daniel Poutreau, Ann Guarre. 6/26/1695 Baptism: (11) Abraham (2-7), parents: Jan Pietersz Mabi and Annetje Bosboom; witnesses: Gerrit Simonz and Antje Sanders. 9/1/1695 Baptism: (01) Fredricx (5-3), parents: Caspar Mebie and Elisabeth Shuermans witnesses: Jeremias Westerhout, Rachel Shuermans 11/10/1697 Baptism: (11) Engeltje (2-8), parents: Jan Mabi and Annetje Borsboom; witnesses: Jacobus Peek and Jannetje Reyerz. 2/2/1698 Baptism: (03) Marie (4-7), parents: Jean Pierro and Marthe Maybe; witnesses: Timothee Archambaud, Madam Jeanne Archambaud NOTE: The year was 1697/98 under the old British Calendar 6/25/1699 Baptism: (01) Jeremias (5-6) , parents: Casper Mebie and Elisabeth Scheurmans; witnesses: Jeremias Westerhout & wife Catharina 5/5/1700 Baptism: (11) Maria (2-9), parents: Jan Mabi and Anna Borsboom; witnesses Jacobus van Dyck and Sara Peek. 10/7/1704 Baptism: (11) Metje (2-10), parents: Jan Meby and Antye Boosboom; witness Lysebit Tonissen 9/18/1705 Baptism: (01) Abraham (5-9) , parents: Casparia Maebie and Elizabeth Schuermans; witnesses: Kristoffel Kristiaanse, Meindert Steen, Maritje Mol NOTE: In this time frame, Engeltje (3), by now a widow, married Meindert Steen. 1708 The will of "John Peroa", the husband of Metje (4), dated 12/1708, mentions wife Martha, sons Peter and Jacob and daughters Anna Katharine, Margaret and Mary. 5/9/1708 Baptism: (91) Johannes (5-10) , parents: Casper Meeby and Elisabeth Schuermann; witnesses: Johannes Van Inburgh and Catrina, his wife 1715 The will of Sophia Romeyn, the sister of Christian, who was the wife of Frederick Schuurman (Lysbeth's parents), written in 1715, specifically mentions four daughters of Caspar Mebie and Lysbeth Schuerman: Christyntie, Affie, Sophia (Feytie) and Catharine. The baptisms for the latter 3 daughters have not survived. Since Affie married in 1717 and Sophia in 1719 and since Catharine appears to have had her first child in 1725, it is guessed that Affie was born in 1696 or 1697, Sophia in 1697 or 1698, and Catharine in 1703. In addition, Caspar apparently also had a son, Simon, born approximately in 1701 (baptism record did not survive). Therefore, these four children are: Affie (5-4), Sophia (5-5), Simon (5-7), and Catherine (5-8). 1719 The will of "Martha Puiroe" (4), dated 6/15/1719 and probated on 8/3/1719, mentions her desceased husband John, her children Margaret Hall, Mary Leonard, Peter Puiroe, and Anna Catherine Kearney as well as grandchildren Jacob Leonard and John Kearney. 1725 The will of Jan Pieterse Mebie (2), dated 4/1725 and proved 8/1725, states that he had 10 children: three sons (Pieter (2-3), the eldest, Jacob (2-4), and Abraham (2-7), the youngest) and 7 daughters, of whom only Margaret (2-2) is named. Notes on Tryntie (Catharine) Pieterse (6): The "standard" genealogy for the Mabie family has Tryntie married to Hans Hendrickszen Spier in 1683 and living thereafter in New Jersey. The following marriage record from the New Amsterdam/New York DRC is cited as proof: 1683: Met attestatie Van Bergen. Hans Hendrickszen Spier, j. m. Van Bergen, en Tryntie Pieters, j. d. als boven. 1 Aug. This same marriage is also reflected in the Bergen (NJ) RDC records, with the bride identified specifically as being from Long Island. This casts considerable doubt on the accuracy of associating this marriage with a daughter of Pieter Casparszen. Part of the problem is that females named Tryntie with the patronymic Pieters were not uncommon in New York at this time. Moreover, Tryntie, the daughter of Pieter Casparszen, was still living in New York with her mother in 1686 (Members List of the NY DRC), while the Trintie who married Hans Spier was living in New Jersey, baptizing children in the Bergen church. Therefore, it is my belief that they are two different people. Assuming that Pieter Casparszen's daughter is not the Trintie Pieters who married Hans Spier, I have been unable to identify any other marriage or baptismal data for a Tryntie Peters who may have been Pieter Casparszen's daughter at this time. It is likely, however, that she was the Tryntie Pieters who was a witness at many of the baptisms cited above.