Guernsey County OhArchives Obituaries.....Carothers, John  After 1850
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Deidre Badker berniebadker@iowatelecom.net January 14, 2012, 8:57 am

Family notes - January 2012
Lord John Carothers (or John Carothers) is believed to have been born 1782 at 
Ireland, possibly County Down, northern Ireland. John married a Mary Agnes 
about 1812 at Ireland, also known as Lady Mary Agnes. 

A great-great granddaughter of John Miller believes that John Carothers may 
have been Scottish or perhaps his parents were from Scotland but at some point 
the family moved to Northern Ireland.Their surname Carothers is found spelled 
many different ways, all are correct, eventually Carothers is the most common 
spelling.

Except from "Genealogy of Lord John and Lady Mary Carothers" compiled by Bert 
E. and John C. Carothers and Mrs. Ella L. Latey - "The Meaning of the Name 
Carothers", by La Reina Rule: The Carothers or Carruthers Family, as they are 
known in Scotland, were descended from a proud lineage which has resided in 
County Dumfries for over seven centuries. Their name means Red Fortress, named 
after the rocks from which their ancient stronghold was built. The Carothers 
family manor was at Annandale. William Carothers, head of the family in 1329 
was active in the support of King David the second. Later, about 1440, Thomas 
Carothers was especially rewarded by King James the second for his services 
against the English. The Carothers coat of arms consists of two chevrons 
between three fleurs-de-lis on a red shield. Their motto, PROMPTUS ET FEDELIS 
which means Ready and Faithful. The surname spread into Northern England and 
Ireland and in the 1700's to America. Distortions of the name are numerous and 
some are almost unrecognizeable, such as Carrudis, Carruthers, and Carruddrs."

"While La Reina Rule states that they took their name from the red stone of 
which their castle was built, we are of the proud opinion that they took their 
name from some physical characteristics of the people that lived in the castle, 
because we know that it was the custom of the Scotch to apply names that way. 
For example, the name of Campbell means crooked mouth and this leads us to 
believe that the family of Carothers was of ruddy complexion. At least they 
should have had red hair."


John and Mary Carothers had at least seven children while living in Ireland: 

1.)John Carothers (born 1814 County Down, Ireland, died 1826 at same); 

2.) William L Carothers (born September 26, 1816 Fermanagh, County Down, 
Ireland, married Sarah Dales August 21, 1839 at Ballysorphy, Hillsborough, 
County Down, Ireland, 12 children, farmer, died July 16, 1893 Guernsey, Ohio); 

3.) Martha Ann Carothers (born 1818 County Down, Ireland,may have married a 
John Harsell Patterson, not 100% sure, died 1895 U.S.); 

4.)George Carothers (born 1822 County Down, Ireland, emigrated to Guernsey, 
Ohio, died February 1858 Guernsey, Ohio); 

5.) Margaret Carothers (born 1824 County Down, Northern Ireland, married a 
Miller there, had a son John, died between 1844-1847 at Ireland). Margaret's 
parents brought her son to Ohio and raised him, John S Miller (1844-1908); 

6.)Samuel Edward Carothers (born March 24, 1826 Down, Ireland, married Eliza 
Ann Keowan June 2, 1856 at Guernsey, Ohio, 8 children, died May 28, 1902 
Guernsey, Ohio); 

7.)John Peasley Carothers (born March 26, 1831 Down, Ireland, married Mary A 
Gill October 28, 1857 Guernsey, Ohio, 3 children, died January 16, 1908 
Liberty, Guernsey, Ohio).

John and Mary Carothers and at least 5 of their children emigrated to Liberty 
township, Guernsey County, Ohio in early 1847. An Andrew Dales emigrated with 
them, Andrew was a brother-in-law to John's son, William Carothers and a 
brother to William's wife, Sarah Dales Carothers.

There is a ship's list record found for a John Carothers emigrating from 
Ireland, a farmer, arriving at Philadelphia on June 15, 1847 on the ship Bark 
Montpelier but not 100% sure this is the same John Carothers.

Family found in the 1850 census living at Liberty, Guernsey, Ohio, pg. 445, 
family # 883: George, age 28 (farmer) (John's son) and wife Bella, age 24; 
Samuel, age 24, born in Ireland (John's son); John Miller, age 5, born in 
Ireland (John's grandson); John Peasley, age 22, born in Ireland (John's son).

Cannot find Lord John Carothers nor wife Lady Mary Agnes in any 1860 census 
living alone or with their children, so have concluded that both John and wife 
Mary died sometime between 1850 and 1860 at Liberty, Guernsey, Ohio. Am sure 
they are buried at Guernsey, Ohio, not sure where.

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