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     May 14, 1838
P.S.--As it regards the virtues of the patent prepartions prepared by the
late firm of W. Lindsay & Co., I have nothing to say at this time, only that
Dr. Lindsay's Ague Medicine and Tonic for general debility, has "arsenic" in
its composition. This appears to be the only article that he is willing to
indorse and therefore I will let the community know a part of its
composition.
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The Indiana Journal, (weekly) 2 June 1838, p. 3

TO THOSE WHOM IT MAY CONCERN.
"Facts speak louder than words" - Elijah
"Facts are stubborn things"

     The false, libelous and slanderous publication over the signature of
"George W. Stipp," in the Journal of last week, demands a few facts from a 
person who is totally disinterested.

     In presenting these facts to the public, it must be particularly
understood that I have no motive whatever in taking either the part of Dr. 
Lindsay or of Dr. Stipp, excepting to let the truth on both sides be known. I 
further affirm that I have not been solicited or requested by Dr. Lindsay to 
give these statements, but on my own responsibility, fearless of any 
consequences.  I do say and know, that his publication of last week is false,
basely false, and well he knows it. But "facts speak louder than words." I 
will meddle with nothing but facts. I will take his communication from 
beginning to end as folows:

     1st. He says, "About one year ago, at the repeated, urgent, and pressing
solicitations of W. Lindsay and his friends, I was at an unguarded moment
induced to give him an interest in my practice and drug store, upon the
promise and belief that he would be able to put in a capital equal to my own,
so soon as he could dispose ofproperty sufficient. "This is false. On the
contrary it was at the repeated, urgent, and pressing solicitations of G. W.
Stipp portrayed to Dr. Lindsay, that induced Dr. Lindsay to join him
partnership. These facts can be proved by referring to letters from Dr. S. to
Dr. L. 

     2d. He says, "W. Lindsay on the 3d day of last June, put in as capital, an
assortment of old drugs, patent medicines, &c. to the amount by himself
invoiced of $600. (Dr. Stipp in his calculation entirely forgot to mention
Dr. L's credits, and some 3 or $400 cash loaned him (S.) for his individual
use.) This is false. Dr. L. invoiced his goods at Richmond at the time he
packed them up to remove to this place. He invoiced them so far only as to
take a memorandum of the goods, without setting any prices to them. They were
opened here and compared with the memorandum by me, and I know this
memorandum to be correct; it was rather dimished than increased. They were
then entered in the invoice book by Dr. Stipp--Valued and priced by him,
(excepting a very few articles that Dr. Stipp was not acquainted with the
value of.) Without saying how correctly it was done by Stipp it amounts to
$1353. [1833?]

     3d. He says, "Lindsay has drawn from the concern since that time about
$500 in case." This is false. All the cash received from the concern by Dr. 
L. and his family, does not amount to $265.

     4th. He says, "I had on hand a new and well selected assortment of drugs,
paints, &c. a stock at eastern costs and carriage of the value of $2,150."
This is false. As to the quality of his stock. It was no better, and I
believe much inferior to Dr. Lindsay's. His (Dr. S.'s) invoice according to
his own prices and arrangements, does not amount to the sum he represents it
to be; and let me assure you, his invoice is false, basely false. In many
cases he entered the same item twice, and in some cases he invoiced articles
that was not in his stock. Had these been made his stock would have been in
value much under Dr. L.'s.

     5th. He says, "cash put in by me since that time about $1200." This is
false. It is true the books would show credits in his favor to a considerable
amount, but much under the amount he presents it to be. But how were those
credits obtained? Has he not in several instances borrowed money, and gave W.
Lindsay & Co.'s notes for the same, and then gave himself credit for the same
money put into the firm by himself! He has given himself credits by
transferring accounts from the books of Stipp and McCarty to the books of W.
Lindsay & Co., and since selling out his interest to Dr. Lindsay, he has had
those same accounts from the books of Stipp & McCarty.

     6th. He says, "I have blended my private transactions with the firm is
true, so far as advancing money to pay firm debts, and no further." This is 
false, positively false. He has settled his own debts, and he has settled 
debts of Stipp and McCarty by giving notes of W. Lindsay & Co., and never 
charged himself with the same. Since he sold his interest to Dr. L. he has 
settled firm accounts and given receipts in the name of w. Lindsay & Co.

     7th. He says, "I had no control over the books for six weeks previous to
the time the injuncction (sic) was laid," (which was on the 12th day of April.)
This is false. The books will show his own hand writing up to the evening of
the 11th day of April.

     8th. He says. "If the books are not as correct as books generally are,
they have been made so since they left my possession." It is true that the 
books are basely false, and it is equally true that G. W. Stipp has made them
so. 

     As to any insinuations that Dr. Stipp made in regard to Dr. L. and his
family fraudulently meddling with the money drawer, they are without the
slightest foundation. As regards the charge of fraud against D. L. in
disposing of the establishment to Dr. Smith, I can say that I believe it to
be a bona fide sale, and also believe it to be sold under existing
circumstances at its value.

     From the recommendation which I received of Dr. Lindsay at Dayton, before
ever seeing him, and from an acquaintance since the connexion (sic) of Dr. L.
and Dr. S., (I having been in the establishment during the whole time of this
connexion,) I consider it due to the character of Dr. Lindsay to say that I
believe that he acted with the most honorable and pure motives from the
present and ultimate benefit of creditors. At a Forced sale, the
establishment probably would not have realized one thousand dollars, and it
was Dr. Stipp's determination that sales should be forced. He has expressed
himself to me in these words, "I will get some persons to push their claims
and have the hole stock sold under executions for cash. I will them have a
person to buy it for me (Stipp) then we will see who will pay the debts."

     On the subject of Dr. W. Lindsay's Tonic Prepartion, a more injurious and
unprincipled act, Dr. Stipp could not have been guilty of, than the charge he
has made with regard to it. It is well known by the profession, that there is
a preparation known by the name of Fowler's Solution, "which has been an
efficient prepartion and has had and still has the confidence of the
Profession as a valuable medicine as a tonic, and particularly in the
treatment of ague, chills and fevers &c. Dr. W. Lindsay's formula or recipe,
as given and left by himself on starting to the South last fall, did not call
for this or any other preparation of the mineral, but Dr. Stipp took the
liberty to add a small portion of Fowler's Solution, on his own
responsibility, and without Dr. Lindsay's consent or knowledge. But out of
respect to Dr. Stipp's character (bad as it is,) I should hope he made this
addition in full faith and belief that it would be an improvement. Should
this statement of the case be doubted, I have a copy of the recipe presented
by Dr. Lindsay, above referred to, which "as facts speak louder than words,"
will show for itself. And this is the very same Blixam Doctor that never done
anything but what was honest, just, and right, both in the eyes of man and in
the eyes of the law.--More if required.
D. CRAIGHEAD
June 2, 1838

N.C. If any further proof shoud be wanting, as to the truth of the above
statements, books and papers can be produced, together with the evidence of
those with whom he has settled firm accounts, and applied the same to his own
use.

     I do hereby certify that there was no appearance of any alterations having
been made in the books of Wm. Lindsay & Co. whilst in the hands of Dr.
Wm.Lindsay. Indeed I am perfectly satisfied in my own mind, that any
suspicion of the kind is entirely without foundation, and was prompted by
malice alone.
G. HOLLAND
June 1, 1838
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Richmond Palladium 10 Oct., 1840, p. 3, col. 2 

DIED-On Thursday evenng last, in this city Mrs. Lindsey, wife of Dr. Wm.
Lindsey.
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After the death of his dear wife Dr. Wm. Lindsay and his family moved back to
Ohio where he could be near his very supportive family. Mrs. Lindsay was
Rhoda Allison Smith daughter to Dr. Peter Smith, b. 1753 N. J. and Katherine
Stout, b. 1760 N, J. 
Helen Graham Silvey