BERRYHILL FAMILY, Richmond, Jefferson, Jasper, Pike, Montgomery Cos. GA, Chambers, Tallapoosa, Randolph Cos. AL, Mecklenberg Co. NC, Creek Nation (OK), Nacogdoches, Rusk Cos. TX, Amite? Co. MS The Story of John Berryhill and Elizabeth Derrisaw and Their Descendants This is an unpublished manuscript done by Thelma Nolen Cornfeld before her death in 1996. Her daughter Barbara gave me permission to put her research online. Submitted by David Morgan dmorgan@efn.org ************************************************************************ USGENWEB ARCHIVES NOTICE: These electronic pages may NOT be reproduced in any format for profit or presentation by any other organization or persons. Persons or organizations desiring to use this material, must obtain the written consent of the contributor, or the legal representative of the submitter, and contact the listed USGenWeb archivist with proof of this consent. The submitter has given permission to the USGenWeb Archives to store the file permanently for free access. http://www.usgwarchives.net/ *********************************************************************** Pleasant Berryhill, Sr.'s, children by his second wife, Winnie: DAVID LOGAN "TOBE" BERRYHILL D avid Logan "Tobe" Berryhill was born in Fishertown, in the Creek Nation, 1 August 1847. His mother was a full-blood Creek woman of the Tuckabatchee Town, the niece of Opthle Yahola. Tobe Berryhill grew up in the Creek Nation. After the Civil War, his father and mother separated. Winnie and Tobe lived in Fishertown (Eufaula). Tobe later moved near the Nuyaka Mission close to Okmulgee. David Logan "Tobe" Berryhill gave testimony in Okmulgee in the 1890s for Creek Nation Citizenship, for his cousins, William Baxter "Buck" Self, John B. Self, Lucinda (Self) Bridges and his deceased cousin, Elizabeth (Self) Bridges' two daughters, Bettie (Bridges) McCaughan and Lucy (Bridges) Nolen. These cousins were the children and grandchildren of Tobe's father's sister, Susanna (Berryhill) Self. (See Chapter Eleven for Tobe's testimony.) David Logan "Tobe" Berryhill was active in the Creek Nation Government. He served in the courts at Eufaula, Creek Nation. Tobe became an Independent Methodist Minister. He married three times and had children by each of these wives. The research on Tobe Berryhill has been confusing, but suddenly things would fall into place and hopefully I have most of it together. David Logan "Tobe" Berryhill first married Minda, a full-blood Creek Indian girl born about 1850. Tobe's second marriage was to Peggy (Henegochee) Berryhill, the widow of Tobe's half brother, Thomas "Jefferson" Berryhill. Tobe was a half uncle to Pleasant Luther "Duke" Berryhill and Andrew Jackson "Jake" Berryhill. Tobe's third marriage was to a widow, Mollianna Snakeya. 1882 Creek Census New York (Nuyaka) Town 1. Mindie Berryhill age 35 2. Peter Berryhill age 10 3. Nancy Berryhill age 8 4. Lizzie Berryhill age 5 5. Janetta Berryhill age 2 1895 Creek Payroll Tuckabatchee Town #470 1. David Berryhill By Town Chief David Kernals 1895 Creek Payroll Concharty Town 1. Peggy Berryhill* signed by 2. Alec Berryhill Alec Berryhill 3. Newman Berryhill *NOTE: This is Peggy Henegochee Berryhill, widow of Jefferson, now married to David "Tobe" Berryhill. Alec was the son of Jefferson and Newman was the son of Tobe. TNC. 1896 Creek Census Nuyaka 1. Peter Berryhill 2. Lizzie Berryhill 3. Alice Berryhill 4. Hepsy Berryhill 5. Edman Berryhill 6. Imma Berryhill Following are the Creek Census Cards for David Logan "Tobe" Berryhill and his children: Dawes Name age sex DIB Father Mother No. Card No. 30 P.O. Okmulgee 31 March 1899 103 Berryhill, David L. 51 M 3/4 Pleasant Berryhill Winnie 104 Peggy wife 50 F full Henegochee Unknown 105 Newman son 12 M 7/8 No. 1 No. 2 No. 2 Reported dead (notation made after year 1900). Card No. 2843 P.O. Pierce 23 May 1901 8237 Berryhill, Peter 35 M Full Tobe Berryhill Minda 8238 Emma sis 19 F Full Tobe Berryhill Minda 8239 Lizzie sis 23 F Full Tobe Berryhill Minda 8240 Hepsey niece 7 F 1/2 John Starfey No. 3 8241 Ben Edmond nephew 11 M Full Wilson Bear Unknown Notation! #2 died 22 Dec 1900. #4 died 15 Jan 1904. #3 died 15 Jan 1910. David Logan "Tobe" Berryhill died in Okmulgee, Oklahoma, 23 March 1919 and is buried in the Tallassee Church yard. David Logan "Tobe" Berryhill's children by Minda: 1. Peter Berryhill was born at Bushill, near Pierce, Indian Territory, about 1872. Peter died in Oklahoma in 1911. 2. Nancy Berryhill was born at Bushill, near Pierce, Indian Territory, in 1874. Nancy died before 1890. 3. Elizabeth "Lizzie" Berryhill was born at Bushill, near Pierce, Indian Territory, in 1878. Lizzie married John (Starfey) Deere, a Seminole Indian, the son of Cho Harjo and Lalose. Lizzie (Berryhill) Deere died 15 January 1910. John Deere remarried. He died in Oklahoma 6 December 1917. Following are the Creek Census Cards for the children of John and Lizzie (Berryhill) Deere's children: Dawes Name age sex DIB Father Mother No. Card No. 3954 P.O. Pierce 11 Dec 1905 10058 Deere, Mindy 8 F 1/2 John Deere Lizzie 10059 Mary sis 5 F 1/2 John Deere Lizzie Newborn Card No. 784 P.O. Pierce 1066 Deere, Wiley 1 M 1/2 John Deere Lizzie John and Elizabeth "Lizzie" (Berryhill) Deere's children: A. Hepsey Deere was born in Pierce, Creek Nation, about 1894. I have no other information on her. B. Mindy Deere was born near Pierce, Indian Territory, 31 October 1897. She married Roman Barnett. Mindy (Deere) Barnett died 9 January 1950. Roman and Mindy had two children: a. Morris Barnett. b. Roosevelt Barnett. C. Mary Deere was born near Pierce, Indian Territory, in 1900. Mary married Sam Barnett. They had three children: a. Daniel Barnett. b. Jim Barnett. c. Timmy Barnett. D. Wiley Deere was born in Indian Territory 30 October 1903. Wiley married Gracie Clara Sessions in 1922. Gracie (Sessions) Deere died in Hitchita, Oklahoma, 4 October 1925. After Gracie's death Wiley married Elizabeth Colbert of Eufaula, Oklahoma. Wiley and Gracie Clara (Sessions) Deere's children: a. Thurman Theodore Deere was born at Morris, Oklahoma, 7 December 1922. b. Herman Glen Deere was born at Hitchita, Oklahoma, 15 September 1925. Herman married Margie Gartman on 26 October 1947. E. Sam Dere (twin) was born in Pierce, Oklahoma, in 1909. Sam died of diabetes in the Veterans Administration Hospital at Muskogee, Oklahoma, 4 November 1969, and is buried at Eufaula, Oklahoma. Sam Deere had a son, Sam Deere, Jr., who married Grace Richards. F. Jim Deere (twin) was born in Pierce, Oklahoma, 4 November 1909. Jim married Kogee Morrison. Jim also died of diabetes. He is buried at Lena, Oklahoma. Jim and Kogee (Morrison) Deere had four children: a. Jean Deere. b. Dolan Deere. c. Suann Deere. d. Stover Deere. 4. Alice Berryhill. I believe she died before 1890. 5. Emma Berryhill was born in Pierce, Indian Territory. Emma died 22 December 1900. David Logan "Tobe" Berryhill's child by his second wife, Peggy (Henegochee) Berryhill: 6. Newman Berryhill was born in Nuyaka, Indian Territory, 6 October 1886. Newman married Lucinda Scott in 1907. Newman Berryhill died in 1980. Newman and Lucinda (Scott) Berryhill's children: James G., Grant L., Sherman, Alex, Willie, Marie, Martha, Bessie, Peggy, Wynema, Polly and Louise Berryhill. David Logan "Tobe" Berryhill's child by Mollianna Snakeya: 7. Toga Berryhill was born in Okmulgee County, Oklahoma, after 1910. Toga married Lilly Belle Starr and he now is living in Okmulgee, Oklahoma, in the Tallahassee Community. Toga Berryhill is a Methodist Minister in Tallahassee. Toga and Lilly Belle (Starr) Berryhill have one son: Alfred Berryhill, who has a son, Gregory Allen Berryhill. ELIZABETH ANNA BERRYHILL E lizabeth Anna Berryhill was the last child born to Pleasant Berryhill, Sr. Her mother was Winnie, a full-blood Creek Indian woman. I don't know if she ever married. She had died before 1 April 1899 and is not on the Final Rolls of the Creek Nation. Chapter Eleven SUSANNA "SUKEY" BERRYHILL Susanna "Sukey" (Berryhill) Self Susanna "Sukey" (Berryhill) Self was my great-great-grandmother. I get my Creek Indian blood through her. My Tribal Town is Broken Arrow. This is my Lineage: g-g-g-g-gf I. James Durouzeaux and his Creek Indian wife. g-g-g-gm II. Elizabeth Derrisaw and John Berryhill. g-g-gm III. Susanna Berryhill and Baxter Self. g-gm IV. Elizabeth Self and Ellison Walker Bridges. gm V. Lucy Ellison Bridges and General Lee Nolen. father VI. Jesse James Nolen and Flora May Boss. VII. Thelma Marie Nolen - married David Goodman Cornfeld S usanna Berryhill was born in the Old Creek Nation in 1802. She was born in the part of the Nation that later became Jasper County, Georgia. Susanna was the eleventh, and last, child born to John and Elizabeth (Derrisaw) Berryhill. Susanna was called "Sukey" as a child, and after she was grown her family still called her Sukey. Susanna was supposed to have been one-half degree of Creek Indian blood, from her mother, Elizabeth (Derrisaw) Berryhill; but, she would have been part French from her mother, and from her grandfather, James Durouzeaux, a Trader, Linguist and Interpreter for the Creek Nation. Susanna's grandmother Durouzeaux is said to have been related to the mother of Chief William McIntosh, and to have been the daughter of a Chief of the Lower Creek Nation. I am sure that James Durouzeaux, with his education, his connection with the English, Spanish, French and Creek Nations, would have married into a highborn Creek Indian family. Susanna Berryhill grew up in the Old Creek Nation. She may have gone to Mississippi about 1819, if her parents went there with her older brother, Samuel Berryhill. This could be where Susanna met Baxter Self and why I never have been able to locate Baxter Self's and Susanna Berryhill's marriage record. Susanna and Baxter could have been married by the Creek Nation laws, but in the 1800s a lot of the mixed marriages, between whites and mixed blood Indians, were done in one of the States. Baxter Self was the brother of John Self, who married Susanna's sister, Catherine T. Berryhill, in Jasper County, Georgia late in 1820. Susanna Berryhill married Baxter Self in late 1819 or early 1820. They may have married in Mississippi. Baxter and Susanna (Berryhill) Self were back in the Old Creek Nation, Georgia, in December 1820, when their first child was born. -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- THE SELF FAMILY Baxter Self's Ancestry Baxter Self was born between 1790 and 1800. I believe about 1795. Baxter wasn't on a Federal Census that showed place of birth. Most Census of his children show that Baxter Self was born in North Carolina. Although I have searched many years for the parents of Baxter Self and John Self, I have not come up with any documented proof. I am one of the Editors, and helped organize a "Self Family Newsletter" of Descendants of all Surname "Self", and we are in our eighth year of researching and publishing, but still no actual proof from which line my Self Family descends. The name "SELF" comes from "Pre-conquest personal name "The SAEWULF" meaning SEA WOLF". Saewulf is said to have been a Norseman or Viking Pirate, before the year 900 AD. Between 900 and 1066 AD the Vikings captured parts of France and the British Isles. The descendants of the pirate, SAEWULF, were given "Saewulf" as their surname and it changed through the years to be spelled "Self". The first Self family to come to America from England, was Robert Self and his wife Jane. They settled in Virginia in 1665. Robert Self was given land in the Virginia Colony for paying the way of sixteen other people, to America. Following are excerpts of two letters that I have received from Dr. Melvin Self of Shawnee, Oklahoma. Melvin is the son of John Henry Self, the grandson of Eli Alfred Self and the great grandson of John and Catherine T. (Berryhill) Self. 15th December 1986 Dear Thelma, ----you have confirmed my belief that Baxter and John Self were brothers. I had concluded long ago that the father of John Self and Baxter Self was named William Self. Stories coming to me indicate that William Self left Essex, England in 1762 on his way to the New World. He was supposed to have landed in Philadelphia and then departed South. One story has him going to North Carolina, another to Mississippi and a third to Alabama. He is reported to have returned to England in the 1780s and returned, almost immediately, to Georgia or Alabama. He was a salesman of textiles in Alabama and Georgia. Melvin * * * * * 8 January 1987 Dear Thelma, ----Over 50 years ago I remember many long talking sessions with my father, John H. Self. He talked at length about his father Eli Alfred Self, his grandfather, John Self, and his great grandfather, William (Bill) Self. He told us many interesting stories about their experiences and about the experiences that were told to him about my great-great-grandfather (William Self) by my grandfather, Eli Alfred Self. One story I recall was about our great-great-grandfather (the father of John Self and Baxter Self), William Self, while making one of his trips from England to the Colonies and shipping goods to be sold to the Indians and white settlers. He told us about how the sailors complained about how heavy a barrel of flour was and how hard it was to handle. The reason for it being so heavy was that he had buried gold and ammunition in the flour. I can't imagine that he would have enough gold to make it heavy but I guess that lead shots for their rifles would be heavy. On the side he mentioned that the gold was ill-gotten, but did not elaborate on the subject. He talked about the problems of shipping hides and other goods to England, so I guess he was heavely involved in trading both ways. Thelma, I am aware that memories sometime play tricks on us and though they seem perfectly clear, they are subject to error. These stories come to us very straight and our memory of them is very clear. I am sure you are aware that we could not document them even though I believe them to be entirely true. He (John Henry Self) told us that our great-great-grandfather, William (Bill) Self, had a family in England, lost his wife and came to America where he married a second time and that our great grandfather, John Self was of the second family. He (John Henry Self) tended to speculate on whether any of his children by his first marriage (if there were any) came to America with him. If this was true William Self would have been of the senior citizen age when our grandfather (John) and his brother, Baxter Self were born. Melvin Self NOTE: If this information is true, and I have no doubts that it is, although there may be a little embellishment, William Self, the father of John and Baxter Self, was a trader, had his own ship and collected peltry and other things from the factories in the Indian lands, from South Carolina down through Louisiana, and took them to England, then picked up goods to bring back to America. These Factories set up by the United States in the Indian Nations (Cherokee and Creek) were to trade goods to the Indians for their peltries and the peltries were shipped to England. William Panton was in this business, the owner of a large trading company, like a wholesaler. William Self probably did business with William Panton, the owner of the trading company that James Durouzeaux was connected with. William Self's two sons, John and Baxter Self, probably helped in this trade and that is how they came by the knowledge of working on boats, and their ownership of large wagons and the team of four horses that they used to help with the Creek emigration in 1827 and 1828. I haven't found a connection between John and Baxter Self, and the other Self families that were in Georgia and Louisiana. There was an older Baxter Self in Orange County, North Carolina, from 1796 until after 1830. He didn't marry early enough to be their father, but may have been an uncle for whom my Baxter Self was named. This is as much as I have been able to gather of the ancestry of John and Baxter Self. -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Baxter and Susanna (Berryhill) Self had five children born to them in the Old Creek Nation, Georgia: William Baxter "Buck" Self, Mahala Self, Sarah "Sallie" Self, John B. Self and Susanna Self (Jr.). In 1827, Baxter and Susanna Self took their children and emigrated to the Creek Lands West of Arkansas Territory, with the First Party of McIntosh Creeks. They traveled with Baxter's brother, John Self, whose wife was Susanna's sister, Catherine (Berryhill) Self. Baxter Self and his brother, John, each had wagons and a team of four horses. They hauled baggage for the Creek emigrants, to the boats that were to take the Indians down the rivers to Fort Smith, Arkansas; then by land to the Creek Lands in the Fork of the Arkansas and Verdigris Rivers. Following is a bill for payment that Baxter Self presented to the United States for helping with this emigration: The United States Indian Department No. 9 To BACKSTER SELF Dr. 1827 To use of one wagon, four horses and one teamster employed in transporting baggage for Creek Emigrants 13 days - furnishing forage for the horses at $3.50 per day $45.50 1827 To furnishing rations for 6 persons for 30 days commencing in March and ending in April 1827, being 180 Rations at 6 cts per ration 10.80 1827 To 40 days work on board a Flat Boat at 75 cts. per day 30.00 $86.30 I do hereby Certify upon my word and honor that the foregoing account, amounting to $86.30 is justly due me from the United States, and that, I have never received payment for the same or any part thereof. Given at the Creek Agency this tenth Day of December 1834. Witness his John Wade Backster X Self mark Baxter and Susanna Self and their children, settled in the fork of the Verdigris and Arkansas Rivers, near Susanna's parents, and brothers and sisters who had emigrated to the Western lands. One of Susanna's brothers, Samuel Berryhill, had gone to Mississippi and settled there. Two of Susanna's brothers, Thomas S. Berryhill and William Berryhill, had stayed in the Old Creek Nation, Georgia. These two brothers, and their families, are on the 1832 Creek Census East and were given land in the Creek Reserve in Chambers County, Alabama, in 1833. On 7 March 1829, Baxter Self, with his brother, John Self, his father-in-law, John Berryhill, Sr., and his wife Susanna's brothers, and her sisters' husbands, signed as a witness to a Creek Nation Memorial, from the Creek Indian Chiefs to the President of the United States. Susanna (Berryhill) Self's parents, John and Elizabeth (Derrisaw) Berryhill, died in the Western Creek Lands about 1832 and 1833. I believe two of Susanna's sisters, Betsy (Berryhill) Wills and Patsy (Berryhill) McGaha, also died about this time. There was a lot of sickness in the Western Indian Nations because of the swamplands nearby. The United States Indian Department sent a doctor to vaccinate the Indians, but there was not enough good matter to vaccinate all of them and some had already died before the doctor arrived in the Nation. Baxter's and Susanna's two daughters, Mahalia Self and Sally Self, died in the Western Creek Lands; probably around this time. After John and Elizabeth (Derrisaw) Berryhill died, Susanna (Berryhill) Self's brother, John Dallas Berryhill, moved his family to Jackson County, Missouri. John Dallas made trips back to the Creek Nation from Missouri. Susanna's brothers, Alec Berryhill and Pleasant Berryhill, and her sister, Nancy (Berryhill) Posey, stayed in the Creek Nation and lived the rest of their lives there. There was a flood in the Western Creek Lands in 1833, which swept away the settler's crops and the Creek Agency building. Baxter and Susanna and their children moved across the Arkansas River and settled near where Muskogee, Oklahoma, now stands. There were two more children born to Baxter and Susanna Self, after their move to the Western Creek Lands. There was a daughter born between 1830 and 1835. I believe her name was Martha. There was a daughter, whom they named Elizabeth, born in 1837, near where Muskogee, Oklahoma, now stands. This Elizabeth Self became my great grandmother, the mother of my grandmother, Lucy Ellison Bridges, and the grandmother of my Dad, Jesse James Nolen. Baxter and Susanna (Berryhill) Self continued to live in the Western Creek Lands until late in 1837. At this time they left the Creek Nation with John and Catherine (Berryhill) Self; and Susanna's and Catherine's cousin, Thomas Berryhill and his wife, Elizabeth. These three families, with their children, went to Nacogdoches County, Texas. When they arrived there, Texas was in a state of civil war. Thomas and Elizabeth Berryhill stayed in Nacogdoches County, which later became Rusk County, Texas. Baxter and Susanna Self, with John and Catherine Self, took their children and moved on to Natchitoches Parish, Louisiana, and settled there. Both Baxter and his brother, John, bought land in Natchitoches Parish. (See John and Catherine (Berryhill) Self, Chapter Eight.) Baxter and Susanna settled on their land which was close to John and Catherine. Another child was born to Baxter and Susanna in Natchitoches Parish. Lucinda Self was born in March 1840. She was the last of eight children born to Baxter and Susanna. Baxter Self died in Natchitoches Parish, Louisiana, sometime after 1840 and before 1850. Their daughter who was born in the Creek Lands West between 1830 and 1835, who I believe was named Martha Self, also died about this time. Baxter Self's death left Susanna (Berryhill) Self a widow, with five of their eight children living. Susanna Self, Jr., married John Johnson in 1842. William Baxter "Buck" Self married Mary Elizabeth Boswell in 1848 and settled close to his mother. John B. Self married a widow, Mrs. Samantha (Alford) Elam, in 1849 and they moved to Kaufman County, Texas, before 1850. In 1850 Susanna had only the two youngest children at home, Elizabeth Self and Lucinda Self. In about 1851, Susanna (Berryhill) Self, with her youngest daughter, Lucinda Self, returned to the Creek Nation for a Creek Nation Payment. I believe Elizabeth was sent to Kaufman County, Texas, to stay with her older brother, John B. Self and his wife, Samantha. While in the Creek Nation, Susanna and her daughter Lucinda Self, stayed with Susanna's brother, Pleasant Berryhill, and his wife, Winnie. They stayed part of the time with Susanna's niece, Sally (Posey) Hopwood, daughter of Susanna's oldest sister, Nancy Posey. In the 1850s, William Baxter "Buck" Self and his wife, Mary, and John and Susanna (Self) Johnson, were in Tarrant County, Texas, where Buck Self and John Johnson were working for a land surveyor. By December 1852, Susanna (Berryhill) Self had returned to Natchitoches Parish, Louisiana, and she and her children sold the land they had inherited from Baxter Self. I believe Susanna's intention was to move back to the Creek Nation, where her brothers, Pleasant Berryhill and Alex Berryhill, and her sister, Nancy Posey, were living. Susanna's widowed brother, John Dallas Berryhill, had returned to the Creek Nation from Missouri. Susanna's sister, Catherine, who had married Baxter Self's brother, John Self, also had planned to go to the Creek Nation. There was to be an Old Settlers Creek Payment, for the Creek Indians, and their descendants, who had emigrated to the Western Creek Lands before the 1832 Creek Nation Treaty with the United States. Following is the Document of the sale of Susanna's and the children's land: No. 10666 Original U. S. Survey SUSAN SELF So half of Section No. 20 to in Township 7 north of Range 9 WM FOX 320 Acres on Bayou Santa Barbara Sold, 4th of December 1852 Registered - 29th of Aug 1854 Know all men by these presents that I SUSAN SELF of the Parish of Natchitoches State of Louisiana for and in consideration of the sum of TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS to me in hand paid (the receipt whereof is hereby acknowledged) do by these presents bargain, sell and convey unto William Fox of the Parish and State aforesaid his heirs and assigns the following described property vis: A certain parcel or tract of Land known and designated in the U.S. Survey as the South half of Section No. Twenty in Township Seven North of Range No. Nine West containing Three Hundred and Twenty Acres more or less and situated on Bayou Santa Barb'a in the Parish of Natchitoches State of Louisiana to have and to hold the afore granted premises as above described to the sole and separate use of the said William Fox his heirs and assigns forever. In testimony whereof I hereunto set my hand and seal this fourth day of December A.D. Eighteen Hundred and Fifty Two, (1852) (Signed) SUSAN X SELF (seal). Witnesses; Rob. Woods, Fr. Jennings. WE THE UNDERSIGNED CHILDREN OF SUSAN SELF AGREE TO THE ABOVE. (signed) SUSAN JOHNSON = W. B. SELF = J. B. SELF = LUCINDA SELF = ELIZABETH SELF. State of Louisiana Parish of Natchitoches Before me Thomas P. Jones. Recorder in and for the Parish and State aforesaid, personally came and appeared Franklin Jennings a resident of the Parish and State, who being by me duly sworn deposes and says that he is one of the subscribing witnesses to the within instrument of writing or deed of sale, that he was present and saw all the parties thereto, with the exception of "W B SELF" sign the same in the manner in which the same is signed and that they acknowledged and delivered the said instrument in his presence and in the presence of the other subscribing witness as their valid act and deed for the purposes therein contained, that he signed the same with the said parties and the other witness and that he now recognizes his signature to be genuine. (signed) Franklin Jennings - Sworn to and subscribed on this 29th August AD 1854. Before me Thomas P. Jones, Recorder. Susanna (Berryhill) Self died in Natchitoches Parish, Louisiana, soon after this land sale. She didn't get back to the Creek Nation for the Old Settlers Creek Payment. None of Baxter and Susanna (Berryhill) Self's children got on this Roll. Baxter Self and Susanna (Berryhill) Self are probably buried on this land that was sold to William Fox. I don't know how this land reverted back to Baxter's and Susanna's children, but in 1887, Wm. B. Self, John B. Self and Lucinda (Self) Bridges, the only living children of Baxter and Susanna Self, sold this same 320 acres of land to Hamp G. Vowell, who was married to John and Catherine (Berryhill) Self's granddaughter, Martha Ann (Self) Vowell. (See Chapter Eight.) Susanna's sister, Catherine, and her husband, John Self, sold their land in Natchitoches Parish, Louisiana, and returned to the Creek Nation and collected the Old Settlers Payment for Catherine, their children and grandchildren. They are on the Old Settlers Roll. Baxter and Susanna (Berryhill) Self's children: 1. William Baxter "Buck" Self was born in the Old Creek Nation in 1820. He married Mary E. Boswell. 2. Mahala Self was born in the Old Creek Nation in 1822. Mahala died in the Creek Lands West by 1837. 3. Sarah "Sally" Self was born in the Old Creek Nation in 1824. Sally died in the Creek Lands West before 1837. 4. John B. Self was born in the Old Creek Nation in 1826. He married first, Samantha (Alford) Elam; and second, Elizabeth Welch. 5. Susanna Self, Jr., was born in the Old Creek Nation in 1827. She married John Johnson. 6. Martha(?) Self was born in the Creek Lands West between 1830 and 1835. She died in Natchitoches Parish, Louisiana, after 1840 and before 1850. 7. Elizabeth Self was born in the Creek Lands West where Muskogee, Oklahoma, now stands, in 1837. Elizabeth married Ellison Walker Bridges. 8. Lucinda Self was born in Natchitoches Parish, Louisiana, in 1840. She married Thomas Jefferson Bridges. In the late 1880s and the 1890s, Baxter and Susanna (Berryhill) Self's three living children returned to the Creek Nation, Indian Territory, and applied for citizenship into that Nation. Two of Baxter's and Susanna's granddaughters, the daughters of their deceased daughter, Elizabeth (Self) Bridges, also went to the Nation and applied for citizenship. They had to prove their lineage by affidavits and statements from people who knew of their descent from a Creek Nation citizen. Following is a statement that Solomon McIntosh, an old slave of the McIntosh family, made for William B. Buck Self, and one Solomon made for BETTY McCAUGHAN and LUCY NOLEN, the daughters of Elizabeth (Self) Bridges. Since these show lineage of Susanna (Berryhill) Self, I am placing them here. In the Creek Nation about 1892. Solomon McIntosh - Testimony for William Baxter "Buck" Self: Solomon McIntosh is my name - I live in Okmulgee - I am a Creek Citizen - I think I am about 83 or 84 years old. Did you come from Alabama? Yes sir. I belong to Col. McIntosh - Was you acquainted with a good many of the Indians that came from Ala? Yes Sir. Do you know the BERRYHILLS, was they Creeks? Yes I knew them, they were Creeks. DID YOU KNOW WM B SELF WAS THE OFFSPRING OF THE BERRYHILLS? Yes sir. Did you know his mother's name? Yes. What was it? SUKY BERRYHILL - she was a Cowetah Town. She was of the DEARE SHAW family - Cowetah and Broken Arrow was considered as one - What town did Col D N McIntosh belong? He belong to Cowetah. You was raised in the Town - do you know positively that these people were Creeks? Yes I know them good. Did the Berryhills come to this country with the Creek Indians? Yes they came with the Chilly McIntosh Party. When they emigrated to this country where did they live? On the banks of the Virdigris. This boy must have been small when he came, did you see him? Yes. Do you know that this man is Suky Berryhills son? Yes I knew them well - this Suky Berryhill used to cook for us when we was hauling cord wood, hay and corn. What year was it that Suky Berryhill cooked for you? I can't tell, it has been so long - Was it before the war or after the war? It was long before the war. How long after that did you see that man? I never saw them until a few days ago. How long after Mr Self came here did he stay here? He was a boy about so high and disappeared from there - You saw this man when he was a boy - How do you know his is the same since he is a man? He had a mark on him and I see the same mark on him. You say he has a mark. What is that mark? He has two thumbs on one hand with two finger nails. Which hand is it on? This one. Did you know Mr Self in Ala? No sir. Did you know that Mr Self came here with that McIntosh Party? Yes sir. Was Mr Self ever admitted to Citizenship by the Council? The Berryhills were, I dont know about Mr Self he was too small. You knew Buck Self's mother? Yes sir - Suky Berryhill. Is she living? No sir she is dead. Can you swear that this Buck Self is her child? Yes I know it good. Was he ever enrolled in Cowetah Town? I can't tell. Did you know whether he ever make an application before Council? No sir I don't know. * * * * * In the Creek Nation about 1896. Testimony of Solomon McIntosh for the daughters of Elizabeth (Self) Bridges. I knew Buck Self's sister. What was her name? Mahala. Where was she born? She came to the Verdigris. She was born in the Old Country. Was she the only sister Buck Self had? There were 3 of them, I dont know their names. Did you know Elizabeth? I believe one of them was named Elizabeth. It was so long ago I have forgot their names. There were ELIZABETH, SALLIE and MAHALA. I knew them. Was Elizabeths mother an Indian. She was part Indian. How much Indian blood had Elizabeth? I dont know how much but she was of Creek blood. Did she have any children? No they went away from here and I never heard. Then you dont know whether these were children of hers or not? No. NOTE: This questioning was for the citizenship of Betty (Bridges) McCaughan and Lucy Ellison (Bridges) Nolen, daughters of Elizabeth (Self) Bridges. The three sisters of Buck Self's born in the Old Nation and emigrated to the Western Creek Lands in 1827 and 1828 would have been Susanna, Sarah "Sallie" and Mahala. Elizabeth Self wasn't born in the Old Country, but was born in the Creek Lands West in 1837, just before Buck's parents Baxter and Susanna "Suky" (Berryhill) Self left the Creek Lands West and moved to Louisiana. TNC. In 1887 only three of the eight children born to Baxter and Susanna (Berryhill) Self were still living. William Baxter "Buck" Self was living in Van Zandt County, Texas, John B. Self was living in Cook County, Texas, and Lucinda (Self) Bridges was living in Van Zandt County, Texas. These three living children were in possession of the 320 acres of land that Susanna (Berryhill) Self had sold in 1852, to William Fox. I didn't find a record of William Fox deeding the land back to Susanna's and Baxter's children, although he may have done so; or it could be that with Susanna (Berryhill) Self's death, the children decided to not go ahead with the sale. It also could be that William Fox defaulted on the money owed and the land was reclaimed by the children. The children of Baxter's and Susanna's deceased daughters, Susanna (Self) Johnson and Elizabeth (Self) Bridges, didn't inherit their mothers' shares, which seems a little unusual. Following is the document of the sale of the 320 Acres of land, in Natchitoches Parish, Louisiana, to Hamp G. Vowell, husband of Martha Ann (Self) Vowell. State of Louisiana Before me, Isaac F. Carter, Parish of Natchitoches a Notary Public in and for the Parish of Natchitoches State of La duly commissioned and qualified personally came and appeared WILLIAM B SELF a resident of Van Zandt County State of Texas, to me well known herein acting for HIMSELF and as agent of his brother JNO SELF resident of Cook County Texas, for his sister LUCINDA BRIDGES a resident of Van Zandt County Texas whose power and authority is hereby expressly recognized and more fully shown by Powers of Attorney, duly executed, signed and acknowledged by said (Principals) Parties hereto annexed and made a part hereof who declared in the presence of me said Notary and the undersigned subscribing Witnesses to be herein after named that for and in consideration of the price and sum of TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS cash in hand paid the receipt of which is hereby acknowledged, he has this day and does by these presents grant, bargain, sell, transfer, assign, set over, convey and deliver unto HAMPTON G VOWELL a resident of the Parish and State herein before written here present, purchasing and accepting for himself his heirs and assigns the following described property including the building & fixtures and improvements thereon to wit: SOUTH HALF OF SECTION TWENTY, TOWNSHIP SEVEN, RANGE NINE in Natchitoches Parish State of Louisiana containing 320 Acres more or less to have and to hold said tract of land and improvements thereon unto the said purchaser his heirs and assigns forever. The Venders hereby giving full and lawful warranty against themselves, their heirs and assigns only. The Mortgage Certificate required by Law is waived by the purchaser and dispersed with by consent. Thus done sealed and signed at my office in Robeline in presence of GEO L JACKSON and D W HUBLEY good, lawful and competent Witnesses who subscribed their names hereto with the parties and me, Said Notary, all in the presence of each other on this 15th day of February A D 1887. (signed) W B SELF - JOHN SELF per W B Self, Atty in fact, LUCINDA BRIDGES, per W B Self, Atty and agent - H G VOWELL. (attest) Geo L Jackson. D W Hubley.Isaac F Carter, Notary Public. Power of Attorney given to William Baxter "Buck" Self, by his sister Lucinda (Self) Bridges in 1885: State of Texas Know all men by these Presents County of Van Zandt that I LUCINDA BRIDGES of the State and County above named have this day and do by these presents Nominate, Constitute and Appoint MY BROTHER W B SELF of Van Zandt Co Texas my true and lawful agent and attorney in fact to sell, deed and convey to such persons as he may see fit any and all lands and any and all Real Estate that I am or may be in any way interested in which is situated and lying in Natchitoches Parish State of Louisiana and I hereby fully empower my said agent and attorney to do any and all things necessary to be done in order to sell and convey all Real Estate I now own or am interested in, in said Parish as fully as my self could do if personally present and I hereby ratify and confirm all my said agent and attorney may lawfully do in the premises. Witness my hand on this 14th day of August 1885. (signed) LUCINDA BRIDGES. W L Haynes, J.P. and Exofficio Notary Public in and for Van Zandt Co Texas. Power of Attorney given to William Baxter "Buck" Self, by his brother John Self: State of Texas Know all men by these presents that County of Cook I, JOHN SELF of the State and County above named have this day and do with these presents Nominate, Constitute and Appoint MY BROTHER, W B SELF of Van Zandt County Texas my true and lawful agent and attorney in fact to Sell, Deed and Convey to such persons as he may see fit, any and all lands and all real Estate that I own or may in any way be interested in which is situated and lying in Natchitoches Parish of the State of Louisiana. I do here fully empower my said agent and attorney to do any and all things necessary to be done in order to sell and convey all the real estate I now own or am now interested in, in said Parish as fully as myself could do if personally present and I hereby ratify and confirm all that my said agent and atty may lawfully do in the premises. Witness my hand on this the 25th day of April 1885. (signed) JOHN SELF Before me P H Laurins, a Notary Public in and for the County and State above named. WILLIAM BAXTER "BUCK" SELF W illiam Baxter Self was born in the Old Creek Nation, Georgia, 9 December 1820. He was the first child born to Baxter and Susanna (Berryhill) Self. William B. was called "Buck" as a child and this name stayed with him through life. When Buck Self was about seven years old, his parents left the Old Creek Nation in Georgia, and emigrated with the McIntosh Party of Creeks, to the Creek Lands West. Buck spent all of his childhood living in the Creek Nation near his mother's people. In 1837, when Buck Self was about seventeen years old, his parents, Baxter and Susanna Self, took Buck and his brother and sisters to Natchitoches Parish, Louisiana. William Baxter "Buck" Self married Mary E. Boswell in nearby Sabine Parish, Louisiana, in 1848. Following is their marriage license from Sabine Parish, Louisiana, Marriage Book No. 1, Page 21: ----*** <*> ***---- This is to Certify That I, on the Nineteenth Day of October Eighteen Hundred and Forty Eight, did Celebrate the Rites of Matrimony between MR WILLIAM SELF of the Parish of Natchitoches and MISS MARY E BOSWELL of the Parish of Sabine: Given under my hand, Mr. Joseph Martins October the 20, 1848. Payton P Matthews Names of Witnesses Names of Parties (Signed) (Signed) JOHN B SELF WILLIAM SELF THOS S ALFORD MARY E BOSWELL ----*** <*> ***---- Mary E. Boswell was born in Georgia in 1831, the daughter of John and Louisa (Johnson) Boswell. She was descended from the Creek Indian "Hawkins" family, probably Samuel Hawkins or Benjamin Hawkins. After their marriage Buck Self and his wife Mary settled in Natchitoches Parish, Louisiana, close to Buck's widowed mother, Susanna (Berryhill) Self. They stayed in Natchitoches Parish until after Susanna's death, then Buck and Mary and their two children moved to Texas, about 1853. Buck Self and his brother-in-law, John J. Johnson, husband of Buck's sister, Susanna, went to work for the Texas Land Commission, laying out roads in Young Country, and as chainmen in laying out land in "Peter's Colony" in Tarrant County, Texas. In 1860 William Baxter Self was a Texas Ranger, stationed at Fort Belknap in Throckmorton County, Texas. Buck Self's wife and children were with him at the Fort. The Rangers guarded the frontier. Buck entered the Johnson Station Rangers, Mounted Volunteers, at Tarrant County, Texas, in June 1861 and became a Captain in the Rangers under Thomas J. Johnson. William Baxter "Buck" Self had to move his family from Fort Belknap in Throckmorton County in 1864 because of the raids on the fort by Comanche Indians. This was probably about the time that Buck Self moved his family to Henderson, Rusk County, Texas. I don't know how long Buck Self served in the Texas Rangers. In 1870 he and his family were living in Henderson, Rusk County, Texas, and by 1880 Buck had moved his family to Van Zandt County. He may have moved his family to Van Zandt County soon after 1871, as his younger sister, Elizabeth (Self) Bridges, had died that year, leaving four young orphaned daughters. Their father, Ellison Bridges, had died in the Civil War. Buck's youngest sister, Lucinda (Self) Bridges, was also living in Van Zandt County, Texas. Following are the children of William Baxter "Buck" and Mary E. (Boswell) Self: 1. Clairborne J. Self was born in Louisiana in 1849. 2. Sarah M. "Sally" Self was born in Louisiana in 1851. She married Abe K. March. 3. Middleton T. Self was born in Texas in 1853. 4. Louisa Self was born in Texas in 1855. She married Fred M. Leath. 5. Helen A. Self was born in Texas in 1858. She married William D. Murray. 6. Martha Jane "Dolly" Self was born in Texas in 1860. She married first, Spire Scott; and second, James H. Lynch. 7. Thomas Self was born in Texas in 1864. 8. Benjamin Hawkins Self was born in Texas in 1866. He married Florence England. 9. Buck Self, Jr., was born in Texas in 1868. 10. Mary Self was born in Texas in 1870. She married Leo Herrick. 11. Middleton T. "Mid" Self, II, was born in Texas in 1873. He married Mrs. Eliza Jane (Hill) Ellison. Buck and Mary Self continued to live in Van Zandt County, Texas, near the Kaufman County line. Some of their children had moved away and some had married. Buck and Mary named two children Middleton T. Self. One was born in 1853 and one was born in 1873. This was done in some families when the first child by that name had died; or, if the name was important to the family such as an ancestor's name, because the death rate of children was very high. In the 1900 Census of Indian Territory, both of the Mid T. Selfs were living. This was a name used in Mary Boswell's family, and there was a Middleton Self in the old Self families, but I have never been able to connect our Self family to him. William Baxter "Buck" Self had made several trips back to the Creek Nation, Indian Territory, since his parents had left there. In the 1880s, he and Mary and some of his children decided to return there to live. They first stopped in the Choctaw Nation and stayed there for a while, then went on to the Creek Nation, where Buck Self made application to renew his Creek Nation Citizenship. Following are documents dealing with William Baxter "Buck" Self's application for Creek Citizenship, for himself and his children: Okmulkee Oct. 12th 1891 To the National Council of the Muscogee Nation Gentlemen: Your Petitioner would respectfully represent that he is the legitimate descendant of Creek parents, THAT HIS MOTHER WAS AN OWN SISTER OF ALEXANDER, JOHN AND PLEASANT BERRYHILL, who in there lifetime were fully recognized Citizens of the Nation, and who I believe remained with the Creeks up til their death. My parents emigrated to this country about the year 1828 with the Creek Indians, and settled on the Arkansas River, about three (3) miles above the Verdigris River where they remained for about nine (9) years. At the Expiration of which time my parents moved with me to a neighboring State. Your petitioner at that time being twelve years of age. My residence in the States was caused by the removal of my parents from this country where I became of age, where my social relations and property interest has forsed me to remain up to this time. I feel that I must in justice be entitled to the rights and privileges the recognition which I now ask. I ask therefore that your honorable body will do me the favor of granting me a fair hearing and an opportunity of introducing such evidence as will seem needed to establish the justice of my claim to all the rights and privileges of a Citizen of the Nation. I have the honor to be Your Obedient Servant W B SELF NOTE: William Baxter "Buck" Self was actually sixteen years old when his parents left the Creek Nation and moved to Louisiana. TNC. Okmulgee I.T. Oct. 21th 1892 To the Hon National Council of the Muscogee Nation We your Committee to whom the petition of W B SELF and JOHN B SELF was referred to us, is now represented. We have examined their case carefully and find the law of the Muscogee Nation part them from the rights and privileges in the Creek Nation. But we find into their cases, that their MOTHER WAS A FULL BLOOD CREEK WOMAN, but according to law of the Muscogee Nation on page 177 section 1, forbits them from the privileges as Citizens of the Muskogee Nation. Be it enacted by the National Council; that WM B SELF & JOHN B SELF are parted by the law of the M N from the rights and as citizens of the Muscogee Nation. And recomand your adoption of the same. John Wesley Chairman William Baxter "Buck" Self took his case to the Courts in Okmulgee, Indian Territory. In 1896 he went to court to establish Citizenship into the Creek Nation for his children. Following are these documents: Testimony of WILLIAM BAXTER "BUCK" SELF for citizenship into the Creek Nation: Okmulgee, M N 16 July 1895 My name is Wm B Self. Where do you live? I live on Duck Creek about twenty four miles north of here. I am a Creek Indian, I get my Creek blood from my Mother. Was your mother a fool [full] blood or half breed? My mother was a half breed, her mother was a full blood Creek. What town did your mother belong? Broken Arrow. Where was you born? I was born in the Old Creek Nation East of the Mississippi River. What year was you born? 1820. When did you come to this country? In 1828 with the McIntosh Party. Roley McIntosh was Chief at that time. Where did you stoped when you came here? We stopped near the Old Creek Agency about 4 miles above the mouth of the Verdigris River. We lived there about three years then moved 3 or 4 miles across on the Arkansas River and we lived there about nine or ten years - we went from there to Texas. It was in the time of the Revolution of Texas. I lived in Texas and La. - but came back here from time to time, probably 8 or 10 times during the time. When did you came back to live after lived in Texas? I think it was eight or nine years ago. Was you a recognized citizen at that time? Yes, I thought I was all the time until the ALFRED SELF question came up - they one of the same family that I am. What did you do when you found out your right was questioned? I employed Col D N McIntosh and the case came up before the Dist Judge, I was not here I was down in the Nation. Col D N McIntosh wrote me that the SELF FAMILY went through alright before the Dist Court and he contended that to me as long as he lived. After I came here I learned that my rights were questioned, that I did not go through when ALFRED SELF went through. I made Application to the Council. John Wesley was Chairman of the Committee at that time. I don't recollect when it was. It might be 1889, 8 or 7, I don't know, it was after the trial of ALFRED SELF. I made an application to Council myself once and through my attorney. You said your mother was a Creek Indian? Yes my mother was a Creek Indian. Do you know who your mother was? y mother was a DERRISAW. CROSS EXAM Mr Self did you draw the $29.00 payment? No sir, I was here but could not do it. Did you ever vote in Broken Arrow? I never did, I was not old enough when I left this country and haven't since I come back. How old were you when you first came to this country? I was eight years old - was born in 1820 and came here in 1828. Were you ever admitted to Council? Never was. Who was Judge of Eufaula Dist. when you made application? I don't know, I never inquired. Did you draw the $4.20 payment that was made in 1882? No sir. You said you made application to Council - what action did the Council take in your Case? [This was the end of this page and the next page was missing. TNC.] Testimony of William Baxter "Buck" Self, for his children's citizenship into the Creek Nation: Okmulgee, Ind. Terr. Sept. 5 1896 The Citizenship Commission of Muscogee Nation Applicants Mary Herrick W. B. Leath Leo Herrick M. T. Self Juanita Herrick Buck Self, Jr. Louisa Leath Willie March J. H. Leath Dolly Lynch T. J. Leath Testimony of Buck Self - After sworn. My name is Wm. Self. What is your nationality? Muscogee or Creek Indian. Do you know MARY HERRICK? Yes sir, I know her to be a daughter of mine. LOUISA LEATH is a daughter of mine. LEO HERRICK is a son of Mrs Herrick, a grandson of mine, and Mrs Herrick is my daughter. JUANITA is my daughter's baby. J. H LEATH is a son of my daughter Mrs Leath. THOS LEATH is a son of Mrs Lou Leath, brother to Thomas, VIRGIL (s/b Wm?) is also a son of Louisa Leath. DOLLY LYNCH is a daughter of mine. She is JIM LYNCHES wife. WILLIE MARCH is a grandson of mine, his mother is dead. M T SELF is a son of mine, the youngest of all my children. BUCK SELF [Jr.] is the son of my son who died here last winter. That is all my children and grandchildren. How much Indian blood has Mary Herrick? About 1/8. I am about 1/4. How much Indian blood has these children? I don't know. What town do these applicants belong to? The same town I do, Broken Arrow. You said these applicants belong to Broken Arrow Town, why are they making application? I said I belong to Broken Arrow and suppose a man's family always went with him. These applicants were enrolled on Broken Arrow Town, I saw it done myself. Taylor Chissoe was the Town Chief at that time. They were put on the doubtful list but why I can't say. There were others put on the doubtful list that was afterwards put back on the roll and drew their money. Did National Council admit them as Citizens when they were enrolled? No sir. If the National Council did not admit you and your Town Chief enrolled you and you was taken off, you were satisfied that was reason enough? My understanding was they took my name off because through the Alien Act. How many sons and daughters have you? I have four daughters and one son. One is in Texas for her health, but her home is in this country. These five children are they one father and one mother? I never had but one woman. We have been living together 49 years. You say that these five children would follow the father, why did you not prove their rights when you proved ours? I was advised to prove my own Indian blood and then would have to identify them and that would be all that I would have to do. Who advised you? I don't remember now, I will tell you one Agent. Wisdom. Did you say you was a Creek Indian and proved you was Indian? Yes I did. You say that you was Indian, was there any Indians where you lived and did you marry an Indian? MY WIFE IS ABOUT 1/8 INDIAN, THE LAST OF THE HAWKINS FAMILY, but never will try to prove her right. Is one of these ladies your daughter? Yes sir, this one is my daughter Mrs Herrick. You said their names were enroled and stricken by the Alien Act? That was my understanding, I don't know. You said you had four daughters, where were they born? All four were born in Texas. I don't suppose you want to know the County? No. Where was your son born? In Texas. As you said you had a son dead, where was he born? In Texas. You said YOU CAME WITH THE McINTOSH PARTY. You had no children? No. Then these children were all born in Texas? Yes. You was enrolled on the Broken Arrow Town as a member and you say the Alien Act erased your names? No, I didn't say it, I heard that was the reason. Nearly all your children were born in Texas, they have just recently come into the Country? No, it has been almost eight years since we came in or lived in the States. You came back before the Alien Act was passed, why did you not apply before? Well, I first came here in 1883 and employed D N McIntosh and paid D N McIntosh and he was sick and did not attend himself, but he said that I was represented at the time and went through the same time that ALFRED SELF, as we were the same family I suppose we was alright and just tell you this to show you that I did make application before the Alien Act. Are you testifying to three women and their children? Yes, I am testifying to three women and their children and one son and two grandchildren. Where does that daughter live? She has a home, a farm about four miles from me. Her husband is a mechanic and when he has a job he takes his ife and children with him. Testimony of John Self - After being sworn: MY NAME IS JOHN SELF. Do you know WM B SELF? Yes sir. Is one of his children in this room? Yes, this is MRS HERRICK. This one is MIDDLETON T. SELF, one of his daughters is living in Checotah, one is at Mr. Lynches and one is in Texas. This is the name of the one in Checotah, HELEN. Is that her first name? Yes that is her first name. Do you know LOUISA LEATH? Yes sir, she is living in Texas. Who is DOLLY LYNCH? She is Buck's daughter, a sister to these others. Where does DOLLY LYNCH live? She lives in the edge of town. In whose behalf are you testifying? I suppose I was testifying in behalf of the Plaintiffs, the Applicants. Who is the father of MARY HERRICK? BUCK SELF. How many daughters has Buck Self? HE HAS MARY, HELEN, DOLLY AND LOUISA. Where were they born? In Texas. There is a BUCK SELF Jr., who is he. He had a son to die here last winter and his little son is here. At Lynches? I suppose that is the one. Where was BUCK SELF, Jr.'s father born? He was born in Texas. Do you know about what time these applicants came to this Nation? No sir, I do not. I will state this, however, they have been in this Nation and the Choctaw Nation for quite a good many years. You said that they came to the Choctaw Nation? How long ago has that been? I stated that I did not know. I did not live near them and don't know when they moved. Did you say that LOUISA never did live here? No, she has been here and lived. She is living in Texas now. Was MARY HERRICKS mother a white woman? She is a white woman or regarded as such. Where is MARY HERRICK's father? HE IS BUCK SELF, an Indian. Was he lately admitted to citizenship? Yes sir. How much Indian blood has BUCK SELF? According to the blood of one forefathers he has about 1/4. BUCK SELF recalled: You said your children came from Texas, did they come direct from Texas here? They came from Texas eight years ago, they came to the Choctaw Nation. I started to this Nation and stopped in the Choctaw Nation at those mines, because wages was good. What year did you leave Texas coming to this Territory? I believe it was the latter part of 1887. * * * * * DECISION Okmulgee, Indian Territory - September 10, 1896 This is an Application filed before the Citizenship Commission for admission to citizenship in the Muscogee Nation by right of blood being the children and grand children of W B SELF. A careful and thorough investigation of the evidence adduced substantiates the statement of applicants as set forth in their allegation to the satisfaction of the Citizenship Commission of the Muscogee Nation, have decided and hereby declare that MARY HERRICK, LEO HERRICK, JUANITA HERRICK, LOUISA LEATH, J H LEATH, T J LEATH, W B LEATH, M T SELF, BUCK SELF, JR., WILLIE MARCH AND DOLLIE LYNCH are Creek Indians by blood and entitled to Citizenship in the Muscogee Nation. M. McIntosh James Colbert Clk. Pres. Commission William Baxter "Buck" Self was granted Creek Nation citizenship and is on the Final Rolls of the Creek Nation. He and Mary settled on Duck Creek in the area of Mounds, Indian Territory. Following is the Creek Census Card of William "Buck" Self: Dawes Name age sex DIB Father Mother No. Card No. 369 P.O. Mounds 15 May 1899 1212 Self, W B 78 M 1/4 Baxter Self Susan William Baxter "Buck" Self died in Mounds, Indian Territory, 2 June 1904. He is buried in the Old Mounds Cemetery at Mounds, Oklahoma. Mary E. (Boswell) Self died in Mounds, Oklahoma, 20 February 1920 and is buried in the Old Mounds Cemetery. There is a family story that one of the books written by Zane Grey, the famous author of Western novels, is based on the life of Buck Self. Some of the family think that it is the life of William Baxter "Buck" Self, Sr.; others think that it is one of the sons of Buck Self, Sr., and Mary (Boswell) Self. I believe it is one of their sons. The name of the book is "The Lone Star Ranger" and it could be based on the life of Clairborne J. Self, who joined the Rangers, or it could be the first Mid T. Self. I have read this book and the time that the story took place would be the time of the life of one of Buck's sons. Buck Self stated in 1896 that he only had one son, yet another son showed up on the 1900 Census. It could be that they thought this son was dead. I don't know what information the family has that connects our Self person to the story in this book, "The Lone Star Ranger", written by Zane Grey. CLAIRBORNE J. SELF C lairborne J. Self was born in Natchitoches Parish, Louisiana, in August 1849. He was listed as "Willie" on the 1850 Natchitoches Parish, Louisiana, Census, and on the 1860 and 1870 Census of Texas, as "Clairborne Self". I have very little information on Clairborne Self. He entered the Texas Ranger Service in 1866. Following is the only information that I have on this: SELF, CLAIRBORNE J., Pvt., Commanding officer, SELF, WILLIAM B., Captain. Organization: Minute Men for Young Country. Enlisted Jan 1, 1866 in Tarrant County. R & F 47, Enlisting officer, W. B. SELF. Company raised by Authority of A. J. Hamilton, Provisional Governor, for service on Frontier. 1 Muster Roll dated Jan 1, 1866. I don't know how long Clairborne Self served in the Rangers. In 1870 he was listed on the Rusk County, Texas' Census, age 21, with his parents. I have found no more information on him, unless the Mid T. Self, listed as born in 1849 and listed with William B and Mary (Boswell) Self, on the 1900 Census of the Creek Nation, should be Clairborne Self instead of Mid T., and the first Middleton T. Self of this family had died. SARAH M. "SALLY" SELF Sarah M. "Sally" (Self) March S arah M. "Sally" Self was born in Natchitoches Parish, Louisiana, in 1852. She was the second child born to Buck and Mary (Boswell) Self. Sally was an infant when her parents moved to Texas and settled near Fort Belknap. Sally's parents moved to Henderson, Rusk County, Texas, in 1864. When Sally was seventeen she married Abe K. March, in Rusk County, Texas, 15 May 1870. Abe March was a teamster. He and Sally settled next to Sally's parents, Buck and Mary Self. I believe Sarah M. "Sally" (Self) March died in 1871, at the birth of their only child. 1. William H. March was born in Rusk County, Texas, in 1871. Some years after Sally's death, Abe K. March remarried. William was probably raised by his stepmother. In 1896, William March's grandfather, William "Buck" Self, applied for Creek Nation Citizenship for William. William March was granted citizenship into the Creek Nation. He and his children are on the Final Rolls of the Creek Nation. William H. married Stella (-?-) about 1895. In 1905 they were living in Salt Lake City, Utah. Following are their children: A. Grace March was born in 1896. B. Lloyd March was born in 1899. C. Edith March was born 15 April 1902. D. William D. March was born 25 September 1904. MIDDLETON T. SELF M iddleton T. Self was born in Texas in 1853. He was the third child born to William Baxter "Buck" and Mary (Boswell) Self. Middleton T. Self was age seven on the Throckmorton County, Texas, 1860 Census and he was age sixteen on the 1870 Census of Rusk County, Texas. On both of these census he was living with his parents. I don't now if he was living in 1900 when his parents were near Mounds, Indian Territory. A Middleton T. Self was listed born in 1849, married twenty years and he was listed as Buck Self's son, but the name may have been a mistake and it should have been Clairborne Self. LOUISA SELF Louisa (Self) Leath L ouisa Self was born in Texas in February 1857. She was the fourth child born to William Baxter "Buck" and Mary (Boswell) Self. Her parents moved to Van Zandt County, Texas, soon after 1871. Louisa married Fred M. Leath. Following is a copy of their marriage record: ----*** <*> ***---- State of Texas Van Zandt County TO ALL WHO SHALL SEE THESE PRESENTS: GREETINGS KNOW YE, That any person legally authorized to celebrate the RITES OF MATRIMONY is hereby licensed to join in Marriage as Husband and wife Mr F M LEATH and Miss LOUSIA SELF and for so doing this shall be his sufficient authority. In Testimony whereof, I, M M Stover, clerk of the District Court of Van Zandt County hereunto subscribe my name and affix the Seal of said Court, this 30th day of January A D 1875 M M Stover, Clerk -.-.-.-.-. The State of Texas Van Zandt County This Certifies that I joined in Marriage as Husband and Wife, F M LEATH and LOUISA SELF on the 31 Day of January 1875. J S Scruggs, Minister ----*** <*> ***---- Fred and Louisa Leath settled in Van Zandt County, Texas, close to Louisa's parents. They had intended to go to the Creek Nation when Buck and Mary Self, and Louisa's brothers and sisters did, but Louisa wasn't well, so she and Fred stayed in Texas until about 1897. In the year 1900 they had settled in Sapulpa, Indian Territory. Following are the Creek Census Cards for Louisa and her and Fred's children: Dawes Name age sex DIB Father Mother No. Card No. 614 P.O. Mounds 30 June 1899 1997 Leath, Louisa 43 F 1/16 W. B. Self Mary 1998 John Henry son 21 M 1/32 F. M. Leath No. 1 1999 Thomas J. son 19 M 1/32 F. M. Leath No. 1 2000 Wm Boyd son 15 M 1/32 F. M. Leath No. 1 Card No. 3664 P.O. Mounds 3 Nov 1902 9659 Leath, Thomas F. 1 3/4 M 1/32 Thomas J. Leath Ida J. Newborn Card No. 89 P.O. Quinton 336 Leath, Jessie May 3 F 1/64 Thomas J. Leath Ida Jane 337 Leath, James Henry 1 M 1/64 Thomas J. Leath Ida Jane Minor Card No. 400 P.O. Quitman, Texas 392 Leath, Muskogee 1 F 1/64 John Henry Leath Daisy I don't know where or when Fred Leath or Louisa (Self) Leath died. Fred and Louisa (Self) Leath's children: 1. John Henry Leath was born in Van Zandt County, Texas, in September 1876. He married Daisy and they were living in Quitman, Texas, in 1905. They had one child: Muskogee Leath born 5 May 1905. I don't know if there were children born after then. 2. Thomas Jefferson Leath was born in Van Zandt County, Texas, in September 1879. Thomas married Ida Jane in 1900. Ida Jane was born in Texas in January 1883. Thomas and Ida Jane Leath had three children: A. Thomas F. Leath was born in Mounds, Indian Territory, in 1900. B. Jessie May Leath was born in Quitman, Texas, 1 July 1902. C. James Henry Leath was born in Quitman, Texas, 12 September 1904. 3. Lola Leath was born in Van Zandt County, Texas, 3 February 1881. Lola died at the age of eight years old in Van Zandt County, 21 September 1889. She is buried in Cedar Grove Cemetery in Kaufman County, Texas. 4. William Boyd Leath was born in Van Zandt County, Texas, in August 1883. William married Florence. I don't know if they had children. Both William Boyd Leath and his wife, Florence, died 2 February 1926. They are buried in the Old Mounds Cemetery at Mounds, Oklahoma. HELEN A. SELF Helen A. (Self) Murray H elen A. Self was born at Throckmorton County, Texas, 17 April 1858. She was the fifth child born to Buck and Mary (Boswell) Self. Helen married William D. Murray in Van Zandt County, Texas, 25 December 1878. William was born in Texas in June 1856. He and Helen settled in Van Zandt County, then in the 1880s they went with Helen's parents to Indian Territory. William and Helen Murray first stopped in the Choctaw Nation, then went on to the Creek Nation and settled in Checotah, Indian Territory. William Murray died in Checotah, before 1910. Helen A. (Self) Murray died in Fort Worth, Texas, 17 June 1948. She is buried in the Green Lawn Cemetery at Checotah, Oklahoma. William D. and Helen A. (Self) Murray had eight children. Only four were living in the year 1900. Following are the Creek Census Cards for Helen (Self) Murray and her children: Dawes Name age sex DIB Father Mother No. Card No. 3370 P.O. Checotah 23 May 1901 9319 Murray, Helen 42 F 1/8 W B Self Mary 9320 John son 20 M 1/16 W D Murray No. 1 9321 Whig dau 13 F 1/16 W D Murray No. 1 9322 Ruth dau 10 F 1/16 W D Murray No. 1 9323 William son 8 M 1/16 W D Murray No. 1 Newborn Card No. 664 P.O. Checotah 625 Murray, Helen (2) 1 F 3/32 John Murray Lucy Minor Creek Card No. 105 P.O. Checotah 82 Murray, Mary Margaret 1 F 1/16 John Murray Lucy William D. and Helen A. (Self) Murray's children: 1. John Murray was born in Texas in September 1879. He married Lucy McCalvey in the Creek Nation in 1903. Lucy was born in the Creek Nation in 1882, the daughter of Joseph and Margaret (Lynch) McCalvey. Margaret (Lynch) McCalvey was a sister to James H. Lynch, who married Helen's sister, Dolly (Self) Scott. Lucy (McCalvey) Murray was also of Creek Indian blood. John and Lucy (McCalvey) Murray's children: A. Helen M. Murray was born in Checotah, Indian Territory, 26 May 1904. She married (-?-) Lynn and was living in Checotah, Oklahoma, in 1983. B. Mary Margaret Murray was born in Checotah, Indian Territory, 3 July 1905. Mary Margaret is called "Ted". She married Joseph M. Banowetz. Joseph and Ted were living in Denton, Texas, in 1983. Joseph died in 1983 or 84, and Ted moved to Ada, Oklahoma, near her family, and is living there today. Ted taught school for many years. She and Joseph have a son who is an accomplished musician. C. Lucy "Maxie" Murray was born in Checotah, Oklahoma, in 1907. Maxie married (- ?-) Bateman. She was living in Checotah, Oklahoma, in 1983. D. Monetta Murray was born in Checotah, Oklahoma, in 1907(?). She married (-?-) Depriest. E. John Dawson Murray was born in Checotah, Oklahoma, in 1909. He married Ethel. F. Lillian Murray was born in Checotah, Oklahoma. She married (-?-) Shepherd. G. Connie E. Murray was born in Checotah, Oklahoma. He married Dorothy. H. Ben E. Murray was born in Checotah, Oklahoma, in 1912. Ben was living in Durant, Oklahoma, in 1983. I. Hurbert J. Murray - he was living in Lawton, Oklahoma, in 1983. J. Billye Ruth Murray. She married (-?-) Freedman and was living in Yates Center, Kansas, in 1983. K. Elizabeth Ann Murray. She married (-?-) Ridley and was living in Norman, Oklahoma, in 1983. L. Robert Bain Murray. He died by 1983. M. Jack B. Murray. He was living in Ada, Oklahoma, in 1983. 2. Whig Murray was born in Wills Point, Texas, 15 April 1887. Whig married (-?-) Lee. Whig (Murray) Lee died 18 January 1962. 3. Ruth Murray was born in Wills Point, Texas, in March 1889. 4. William B. Murray was born in the Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory, in October 1890. 5. Henry Murray was born in Indian Territory in 1895. Henry died before 1 April 1899. MARTHA JANE "DOLLY" SELF Martha Jane "Dolly" (Self) Scott Martha Jane "Dolly" (Self) Scott, Lynch M artha Jane Self was born in Throckmorton County, Texas, in February 1860. She was the sixth child born to William Baxter "Buck" and Mary (Boswell) Self. She was called "Dolly" and she was known by this name all of her life, even on some legal papers as an adult. Dolly Self was about four years old when her parents moved to Rusk County, Texas and was about eleven years old when the family moved to Van Zandt County, Texas. Dolly Self went with her parents to Indian Territory. I don't know if it was before her marriage to Spire Scott or if she married Spire Scott in the Choctaw Nation. Dolly Self married Spire M. Scott about 1887. Spire Scott was born in Jefferson County, Texas, the son of Captain James Napoleon and Martha (Drew) Scott. Spire was the great grandson of Chief General William McIntosh and McIntosh's Cherokee Indian wife, Susanna Roe. Family says that Spire Scott was born in 1868 and died at the age of 21 years old. He died in the Choctaw Nation in 1890. Dolly and Spire had two sons. About 1895, Dolly (Self) Scott remarried. She married James Henry Lynch, a member of Big Springs Tribal Town, the son of a white father, who worked for the Creek Nation, and his full-blood Creek Indian wife. James H. Lynch was secretary to the Colbert Commission and was Clerk of the Creek Nation. He was also a Judge in the Creek Nation. James and Dolly helped enroll the Creek Indians for the Final Rolls and allotted land to the Creek Indians, when their Tribal land was no longer held in common as a Nation, but was divided up into one hundred and sixty acres for each enrolled Creek Indian. James and Dolly Lynch settled in Muskogee, Indian Territory, and in 1903 they were proprietors of the "O & CC Hotel" in Muskogee, across from the railroad depot. In 1910, they were living in Porter Township, Muskogee County, Oklahoma. Dolly's sons, by Spire M. Scott, and her and Jim Lynch's two sons, were living at home. Sometime after 1910, James H. Lynch disappeared and was never heard of again. Some of the family members say that he was on his way to Washington, D.C., by train and there was a train robbery and Jim Lynch was believed to have been killed by these robbers. Martha Jane "Dolly" (Self) Scott, Lynch moved to Mounds, Oklahoma, after this, where she died in 1920. She is buried in the Mounds Cemetery. Following are some letters that I found in the Records of the Creek Nation. These were microfilms of the hand-written originals: EXECUTIVE OFFICE MUSKOGEE NATION Okmulgee Ind. Ter. 1/28 1896 Little Doctor Tecumseh, I.T. Dear Sir Replying to yours of the 24th Jan 1896 which has just reached me. I will say that if you will give me the full name under which your sister was registered together with the name of the Town in which she was enrolled as a Citizen of the Creek Nation I will be enabled to inform you whether her name is still enrolled or not or whether her name was placed upon the doubtful Citizenship List by the Com'te of 18 appointed by the Council to investigate the Census Rolls in the Spring of 1895. Please let me hear from you at once and I will be pleased to look the matter up. Very Respectfully J. H. Lynch Act'g Priv. Sec'y * * * * * MUSCOGEE, I.T. Aug. 16 "96 (1896) HON. J. H. Lynch Dear Sir, Yours of the 14th was duly rec'd. I remember the copies of the Laws you speak of and that were on the desk in the H of W unacted upon. When the Council adjourned I don't think the Speaker took charge of them at the close of the Council. You will find them, I think in one of the drawers in the table in the H of W. You can get a bunch of keys from Parkinson's Store and find one to fit the lock. I don't think it was necessary to have Council pass upon the copies of the Law. The Chief has thirty days in which to answer all Applications for Citizenship filed before the Dawes Com. from date of filing of application. He may quote the Laws as they may apply to each individual Case. He also has the authority without any special power being granted by Council; to furnish such Statements as he may deem proper as to the custom and practices of the Creeks in the adoption or recognition of persons as Citizens. I have sent in my resignation as Attorney to assist the Exec. Office in preparing evidence in rebuttal of evidence to be presented to the Dawes Com. by Applicants for Citizenship. Very resp'y A. P. McKellop * * * * * Muskogee, Ind Ter Nov 20th 1896 James H Lynch Secr'ty Creek Commission Dear Sir, Chief Roly McIntosh has telegraphed me from Fort Smith to call a meeting of the Creek Commission at Muscogee, I T on Monday next the 23rd of November. Enclosed notice of same to Rolen Brown & Conchartee Mecco at McDermott. Please bring trans scripts of the Laws appointing the Commission Certified under the Great Seal. Fail not to give this prompt attention and come. Very Respectfully, P. Porter Creek Com'is'er * * * * * Ben T. Du Val A. C. Cunkle Attorney for Muskogee Nation LAW OFFICES OF DU VAL & CUNKLE Offices in Opera House Building Specialties: Commercial and Corporation Cases; Patents Applied For Will Practice in U.S. Courts of Indian Territory Fort Smith Arkansas Muskogee I.T. Jan 8, 1897 Hon. James Lynch Okmulgee, I.T. Dear Sir, Your favor received and I hope you will be able to find the papers I want, as appeal has been taken in the case. I am almost certain that I left the papers in the Executive Office. I(t) was the only one that was not in an envelope. It was rolled up and tied with a string, there being a great many affidavits and other papers which made a large bundle. I don't know how it could have been lost. W T Morgan has filed an affidavit of L C Perryman in support of this claim to citizenship. My understanding is that Perryman was impeached and removed from office. If so he is disqualified as a witness and there ought to be a record of it in your office. If so please send me a transcript of it that I may use it on the trial. The baby is still very ill and in a critical condition, and although better this morning, not yet out of danger. All the rest of the family are well. Mrs Dr Davis came up this morning. Very Respectfully, Dict to F Ben T Du Val [Notation at bottom of page: "Answered 1/11/97] * * * * * THE CREEK COMMISSION P. PORTER ROLEY MCINTOSH, 2ND CHIEF D. M. HODGE G. W. GRAYSON G. A. ALEXANDER Ex Officio members W. A. SAPULPA ------ ROLAND BROWN R. W. STEWART, Interpreter CONCHARTY MICCO J. H. LYNCH, Secretary JOSEPH MINGO Muskogee, Ind Ter June 28, 1897 Hon Isparhechar Prin Chief M.N. Dear Sir The Creek commission at a meeting held to day decided that requisition should be made upon your office for the balance of five hundred dollars due each member of the Commission as per diem. You are therefore respectfully requested to issue a Warrant to the amount of five hundred dollars each in favor of the following members, clerk and interpreter of the Commission, to wit: 1. P. Porter 2. Conchartee Micco 3. G. A. Alexander 4. Roland Brown 5. D. M. Hodge 6. R. W. Stewart 7. W. A. Sapulpa 8. J. H. Lynch 9. Joseph Mingo Very Respectfully P. Porter Chairman Creek Comm'on NOTE: P Porter was Pleasant Porter who became the last Chief of the Creeks as a Nation. TNC. Following is the Creek Census Card of James Henry Lynch and Dolly (Self) Scott, Lynch and their children: Dawes Name age sex DIB Father Mother No. Card No. 355 P.O. Muskogee 9 May 1899 1173 Lynch, James H. 39 M 1/2 James Lynch Lucy 1174 Dolly wife 30 F 1/8 W B Self Mary 1175 James H, Jr. son 1 M 5/16 No. 1 No. 2 1176 John T. son 3 mo M 5/16 No. 1 No. 2 1177 Scott, James N. st son 11 M 1/4 Spire Scott No. 2 1178 Scott, Buck st son 9 M 1/4 Spire Scott No. 2 1179 Lynch, Bessie dau 15 F 5/16 No. 1 Kate Dolly Self's children by Spire M. Scott: 1. James Napoleon Scott was born in Indian Territory 25 October 1888. James was a small child when his father, Spire Scott, died. His mother, Dolly, remarried to James H. Lynch when James Scott was about seven years old. James N. Scott grew up in the Creek Nation and Oklahoma. He married Frances Ethel Coffman in Sapulpa, Oklahoma, 19 May 1918. Frances was born in Quinton, Texas, 26 June 1899. I believe James and Frances were divorced later, but they had two daughters. James N. Scott died in Muskogee, Oklahoma, 12 November 1958. Frances Ethel (Coffman) Scott died in Amarillo, Texas, 6 May 1982. I have information of only one daughter: A. Elizabeth Jane Scott was born in Sapulpa, Oklahoma, 28 January 1921. Elizabeth Jane moved to Washington, D.C., sometime before 1949. Elizabeth Jane and Francis Herron Craig had one child, a son, who was given up for adoption. He is James Leonard Fornaro, who lives in Baltimore, Maryland. 2. William Baxter "Buck" Scott was born in Lehigh, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory, 10 June 1889. Buck was an infant when his father, Spire Scott, died. His mother, Dolly, remarried when Buck was about five years old. William Baxter "Buck" Scott married Stella Idella Stevens in Muskogee, Oklahoma, 27 October 1913. Stella was born in Mounds, Indian Territory, 3 September 1894. She was Buck Scott's third cousin, the daughter of Marion Cicero and Idella May (Berryhill) Stevens and the great granddaughter of Pleasant Berryhill (the 1st). William Baxter "Buck" Scott was the great grandson of Pleasant Berryhill's sister, Susanna (Berryhill) Self. Buck Scott and Stella lived around Mounds, Oklahoma, then moved to Arizona by 1936. They were living in Tacoma, Washington, and William Baxter "Buck" Scott died there 26 June 1946. Stella Idella (Stevens) Scott died in Scottsdale, Arizona, 25 June 1965. Both are buried at Phoenix, Arizona. Buck and Idella had only one child, a daughter: A. Alice Joyce Scott was born in Mounds, Oklahoma, 21 October 1914. Joyce married Winston Ray McCleve in Holbrook, Arizona, 25 June 1936. Alice Joyce McCleve died in Scottsdale, Arizona, 28 March 1977. Winston lives in Tempe, Arizona. Winston and Joyce (Scott) McCleve's children: a. James Baxter McCleve was born in Klamath County, Oregon, 18 November 1937. James married first, Joyce Marguerite Freeman; and second, Karen (Wolf) King. James and Marguerite had a daughter, Fawn Ann McCleve, who married Michael Brines. b. Winston Scott McCleve was born in Klamath County, Oregon, 3 May 1939. c. Michael Geoffrey McCleve was born in Medford, Oregon, 8 October 1946. d. Stephen Ray McCleve was born in Jackson, Oregon, 15 September 1948. Dolly Self's children by James Henry Lynch: 3. James Henry Lynch, Jr., was born in the Creek Nation, Indian Territory, in August 1897. 4. John Thomas Lynch was born in the Creek Nation, Indian Territory, in February 1899. John died at Mounds, Oklahoma, 8 April 1918. THOMAS SELF T homas Self was born in Throckmorton County, Texas, in about 1864. He was the seventh child born to William Baxter "Buck" and Mary (Boswell) Self. In 1870, he was living with his parents in Rusk County, Texas, age six years old. He had died by 1880 when his parents were living in Van Zandt County, Texas. BENJAMIN HAWKINS SELF B enjamin Hawkins Self was born in Rusk County, Texas, in 1866. He was the eighth child born to Buck and Mary (Boswell) Self. Ben moved with his family to Van Zandt County, Texas, then in the 1880s, he went with his parents to Indian Territory. He spent some time in the Choctaw Nation, then went to the Creek Nation. Benjamin Hawkins Self married Florence England who was born about 1875. Ben and Florence settled in the Creek Nation, near Okmulgee. They had two children, but only one survived past 1899. Benjamin Hawkins Self was killed near Okmulgee in the winter of 1895-96. After Ben Self's death, Florence married Harry M. Walker. Benjamin Hawkins and Florence (England) Self's children: 1. William Baxter "Buck" Self, II, was born in the Creek Nation 10 November 1891. He was just a little boy when his father died. His mother remarried to Harry M. Walker, who as Buck's step-father, was made guardian of Buck Self, II, and his Creek Indian Land Allotment. Following is the Creek Census card for William Baxter "Buck" Self, II: Dawes Name age sex DIB Father Mother No. Card No. 742 P.O. Mounds 25 August 1899 2446 Self, William Buck 7 M 1/16 Benj Self Florence Walker William Baxter "Buck" Self, II, married Cleo Adair in Creek County, Oklahoma, 5 April 1912. This marriage ended in divorce, but there was one child. He then married Jennie Belle (Johnson) Wallace. William Buck Self died in Oklahoma 2 April 1943 and is buried in the Old Mounds Cemetery at Mounds, Oklahoma. Buck and Cleo (Adair) Self's son: A. Doyle Self was born about 1913. He died in Texas about 1955, leaving several children. 2. Jesse Self was born to Benjamin Hawkins and Florence Self about 1893. She died before 1899. BUCK SELF, JR. B uck Self, Jr., was the ninth child born to William Baxter "Buck" and Mary E. (Boswell) Self. He lived to be past eleven years old. He first appeared on the 1870 Rusk County, Texas, Census, with his parents, age two years. Buck next appeared on the 1880 Van Zandt County, Texas, Census, age eleven years old. I have found no record of him since then. MARY A. SELF Mary A. (Self) Herrick Mary A. Self was born in Rusk County, Texas, in 1871. She was the tenth child born to William Baxter "Buck" and Mary E. (Boswell) Self. Soon after Mary's birth, her parents moved to Van Zandt County, Texas. In the 1880s, Mary went with her parents to the Indian Territory. They stopped for a while in the Choctaw Nation, then went on to the Creek Nation. Mary A. Self married Leo Herrick in Indian Territory in 1892. Leo was born in Ohio in 1857. He was a mechanic in Indian Territory. Leo and Mary settled in Muskogee, Indian Territory. I don't know when Leo or Mary (Self) Herrick died. Mary was still living in Muskogee, Oklahoma, in 1958. Following is the listing on the Creek Payroll and the Creek Census Card of Mary (Self) Herrick and her children: 1895 Creek Payroll Broken Arrow Town 1. Mary Herrick 2. Lee Herrick 3. Juanita Herrick * * * * * Dawes Name age sex DIB Father Mother No. Creek Card 365 P.O. Muskogee 13 May 1899 1202 Herrick, Mary 27 F 1/8 W B Self Mary E. 1203 Leo son 5 M 1/16 Leo Herrick No. 1 1204 Juanita dau 3 F 1/16 Leo Herrick No. 1 Card No. 3661 P.O. Muskogee 1 Nov 1902 9656 Herrick, Willie J. 2 M 1/16 L. Herrick Mary Leo and Mary A. (Self) Herrick's children: 1. Leo Herrick, Jr., was born in the Creek Nation in July 1893. 2. Juanita Herrick was born in Kansas in 1895. 3. Willie J. Herrick was born in Muskogee, Indian Territory in 1900. 4. Middleton "Mid" Herrick was born in Muskogee, Oklahoma, in 1907. 5. Adelaide Herrick was born in Muskogee, Oklahoma, in 1909. MIDDLETON T. SELF, II M iddleton T. Self, II, was born in Van Zandt County, Texas, 19 March 1873. He was the eleventh and last child born to William Baxter "Buck" and Mary E. (Boswell) Self. In the 1880s he went with his parents to Indian Territory. They first stopped in the Choctaw Nation and stayed there for a while. Middleton T. Self married Mrs. Eliza Jane (Hill) Ellison in the Choctaw Nation 27 November 1892. Eliza was born in Denton, Texas, 7 October 1874, the daughter of Edward and Elizabeth (Garrison) Hill. Eliza had a young daughter, Minnie, by her first marriage. Mid and Eliza had no children. Middleton T. Self died in Glenpool, Oklahoma, 17 September 1935 and is buried in the Mounds Cemetery. Eliza (Hill) Ellison, Self died in Tulsa, Oklahoma, 28 April 1962 and is buried in the Mounds Cemetery. Following is the Creek Census Card for Middleton T. Self: Dawes Name age sex DIB Father Mother No. Card No. 368 P.O. Mounds 15 May 1899 1211 Self, Mid T. 25 M 1/8 W B Self Mary E. MAHALA SELF M ahala Self was born in the Old Creek Nation, Georgia, in 1822. She was the second child born to Baxter and Susanna (Berryhill) Self. When she was about six years old, her parents moved to the Western Creek Lands. Mahala Self died in the Western Creek Lands by 1837. SARAH "SALLY" SELF S arah "Sally" Self was born in the Old Creek Nation, Georgia, in 1824. Sally was the third child born to Baxter and Susanna (Berryhill) Self. She was about four years old when her parents moved to the Western Creek Lands. Sally Self died in the Western Creek Lands by 1837. JOHN B. SELF J ohn B. Self was born in the Old Creek Nation, Georgia, 11 July 1826. He was the fourth child born to Baxter and Susanna (Berryhill) Self. No one knows what the "B" in John's name stands for. I belief he was named JOHN BERRYHILL SELF after his grandfather, John Berryhill. John B. Self was a child when his parents went to the Western Creek Lands and settled with other members of the McIntosh Party of Creeks. He spent his early years in the Nation and grew up close to his grandparents, John and Elizabeth (Derrisaw) Berryhill, and his aunts and uncles and cousins. When John B. Self was about eleven years old, his parents left the Creek Nation. They went first to Nacogdoches County, Texas. John's family didn't stay in Texas long. They went on to Louisiana and settled in Natchitoches Parish. John's father, Baxter Self, bought a farm of 320 acres on Bayou Santa Barbara, in Natchitoches Parish. John and his brother, Buck Self, were the only sons, and they probably farmed this land with their father. John Self's father died in Natchitoches Parish sometime after 1840 and by 1850. Since I don't know the exact year of John's father's death, I don't know if John married and moved to Texas before his father's death. John B. Self married Mrs. Samantha Elam in 1849. Samantha, whose maiden name was Samantha Alford, was born in 1819. She was the widow of William Jefferson Elam, who had four children by his first marriage. William Elam was several years older than Samantha. William and Samantha had no children. Following is a copy of John's and Samantha's marriage license: ----*** <*> ***---- Sabine Parish, Louisiana Be it known that I John D. Tucker an acting Justice of the Peace in and for the Parish and State aforesaid did on the 9th Day of August A D 1849 celebrate a marriage between MR JOHN B SELF and MRS SAMANTHA ELAM in the presence of the subscribing witnesses. Witnesses John D. Tucker, J P G W Morris P A Coleman Parties (signatures) N B Alford J B Self Samantha Self ----*** <*> ***---- After their marriage, John B. and Samantha (Alford) Self went to Kaufman County, Texas, with Samantha's brother, N. B. Alford. John and Samantha were living in Kaufman County, Texas, in 1850, with no children. Family says that John and Samantha had a child, and that Samantha and the baby died in a fire in their home. This was probably about 1852 or 1853. It was about this time that John's younger sister, Elizabeth Self, went to stay with her brother, John Self, in Kaufman County, Texas. That is where Elizabeth met Ellison Walker Bridges, whom she later married. In 1850, a few farms from where John B. Self was living, in Kaufman County, Texas, lived James Welch, a widower, and his sixteen year old daughter, Elizabeth. John B. Self married Elizabeth Welch in Cooke County, Texas, in 1854. Following is a copy of John B. Self's and Elizabeth Welch's marriage license: ----*** <*> ***---- The State of Texas County of Cooke To the District judge or Judge of Probate or any acting Justice of the Peace of said county or legally ordained Minister of the Gospels, GREETING: You are hereby commanded and authorized to Solemnize the rights of Matrimony between JOHN B SELF and ELIZABETH WELCH As by Law you are empowered and authorized and herein fail not, but make your due return of this License to my office in Gainsville, within Sixty days after date with your endorsement hereon now executed. Given under my hand and seal of the County Court as office in Gainsville, this 17th day of October 1854. Geo G. Brill, clk CCCC. -*-*-*-*-*- I hereby Certify that I solemnized the rights of Matrimony between the within named parties on the 22 of October 1854. Thomas J Harris, an Ordained Minister of the Gospel. Returned October 24 1854, Geo G Brill, clk ----*** <*> ***---- Elizabeth Welch was born in Tennessee on 4 November 1833. I don't know when Elizabeth's father, James Welch, left Tennessee and took his family to Texas. By 1850, Elizabeth Welch's mother had died and she, her father, James Welch, her grandmother, Elizabeth Welch, and her brother, Riley Welch, were living in Kaufman County, Texas. John and Elizabeth (Welch) Self settled in Cooke County, Texas, and Elizabeth's father, James Welch, lived with them. They lived in Cooke County for a number of years and all of their children were born there. John B. Self entered the Civil War and served as a Major. John farmed near Gainsville in Cook County and raised horses. In January 1871, he was sworn in as a member of the 12th Legislature of the State of Texas. In the late 1880s, John and Elizabeth and their children moved to Baylor County, Texas, where John and his sons raised horses. John B and Elizabeth (Welch) Self's children: 1. Samantha Elizabeth "Mant" Self was born in 1856. She married Sir Isaac Newton. 2. Mary Lou Self was born in 1858. She married Ausburn Brown Harwell. 3. William Baxter Self was born in 1860. 4. Sonora "Nora" Self was born in 1866. She married John W. Chesler. 5. John B. Self, Jr., was born in 1868. 6. Sarah H. "Sally" Self was born in 1870. She married (-?-) Alexander. 7. Martha Frances Self was born in 1872. She married Walter Fox Boling. 8. James Riley Self was born in 1873. In the early 1880s, John B. Self went to the Creek Nation and applied for Creek Nation Citizenship for himself and his children. John made several trips back and forth from Texas to the Creek Nation, but because of John's business and holdings in Texas, he and his wife, Elizabeth, remained in Texas until after the year of 1900. Some of their children did move to the Creek Nation before 1900, and John and Elizabeth joined them there in Mounds, Indian Territory, after 1900. In 1885, John B. Self had given his brother, William Baxter "Buck" Self, a Power of Attorney to dispose of any real estate that John had an interest in Natchitoches Parish, Louisiana. Buck sold, to his cousin, Martha (Self) Vowell's husband, the property that had been left to Baxter and Susanna (Berryhill) Self's children, that was still owned by the three living children, John B. Self, Lucinda (Self) Bridges and William Baxter Self. There was a piece of land consisting of 320 acres that belonged to John B. Self alone. I believe this was property that John B. Self had inherited from his deceased first wife, Samantha (Alford) Elam; or it could have been property that John had purchased. This was also sold by Buck Self to Hampton G. Vowell, Martha's husband, and to Hamp's brother, William Vowell, who was married for a short while to cousin Eli Alfred Self's daughter, Mary Jane Self. Following is a copy of the sale of this property: State of Louisiana Parish of Natchitoches Before me Isaac F. Carter, a Notary Public in and for the Parish and State aforesaid Duly Commissioned and Qualified, Personally came and appeared WILLIAM B SELF a residence of Van Zandt Co Texas to me well known Agent and Attorney in fact for JOHN SELF a resident of Cooke County State of Texas whose Power and Authority is hereby expressly recognized and fully shown by Power of Attorney hereto annexed and made a part of this Act, who declared in the presence of me said Notary and the undersigned subscribing witnesses to be hereinafter named that for the consideration Price and Sum of ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS cash in hand paid the receipt of which is hereby acknowledged. he has this day and does by these presents Grant Bargain Sell Transfer Assign Set over Convey and Deliver with full and lawful warranty unto HAMPTON G VOWELL and WILLIAM F VOWELL residence of the Parish and State first herein before written herein represented by HAMPTON G VOWELL here present, purchasing and accepting for himself and his brother WILLIAM F VOWELL their heirs and assigns the following described property including the buildings and fixtures and improvements thereon to wit: The East half of Section Twenty-one Township seven Range Nine containing 320 acres lying and being situated in Natchitoches Parish Louisiana To have and to hold said tract of land and Improvements thereon unto the said purchasers equally their heirs and assigns forever -- The Vendor hereby binding himself his heirs and assigns forever to warrant and defend the tract of land herein conveyed against the Legal claims and demands of all persons whatever -- The Mortgage Certificate required by Law is waived by the Purchasers. This done passed and signed at my office in the presence of George L Jackson and D W Hubley, good and lawful and competent witnesses who subscribed their names hereto with the Parties and me said Notary on this the 15th day of February A D 1887. (Signed) JOHN SELF per W B SELF Agent and Attorney in fact. H G VOWELL, W F VOWELL per H G Vowell. Attest: G L Jackson, D W Hubley -- Isaac F Carter, Notary Public--- On the several trips that John B. Self made into the Creek Nation, from 1882 until he moved there after 1900, he testified before the Creek Commission to establish the Creek Indian blood line for himself and his children; his brother, William "Buck" Self; his sister, Lucinda (Self) Bridges; and the daughters of his deceased sister, Elizabeth "Betty" (Self) Bridges. Following are applications and testimony to support the claim of Creek Indian blood line of John B. Self and his children, and to establish Creek Nation Citizenship: Okmulgee I.T. To the National Council Oct. 6 1891 of the Muscogee Nation Gentlemen: The undersigned, your petitioner prays your attention and early action on the claims of himself and others represented by him, to the rights and privileges of a Creek Citizen arising and due them as they believe under the following facts to wit: In the early emigration of the Creeks to this country, probably in about 1828, JOHN and ELIZABETH [Elizabeth marked through and Martha written above] BERRYHILL AND THEIR DAUGHTER SUSAN, MY MOTHER, being recognized members of the Creek Nation of Indians removed along with the said Creeks, and with them settled on the Arkansas River somewhere near 3 miles above the mouth of the Verdigris River in this Nation. Here we lived for the period of about nine (9) years at the end of which time your petitioner was about eleven (11) years of age. My parents for some cause not known to me, and at the time when I could not, because of my tender age, make a legal objection even had I been so disposed, against leaving my Nation, moved from the Territory with me to the States where I became of age, and where my social and property interest have forced me to reside until the present time. I claim rights as a Creek through my maternal descent. MY MOTHER'S MAIDEN NAME WAS, AS ABOVE INDICATED, SUSAN BERRYHILL, AND WAS THE FULL SISTER OF JOHN, ALEX AND PLEASANT BERRYHILL, who are all well known to the older Citizens of this Nation. My CHILDREN for whom I also speak, and whom I include in this petition are named respectively: SAMANTHA E NEWTON, MARY L HARWELL, WILLIAM B SELF, SONORA V CHESLER, J B SELF, JR., SALLIE H ALEXANDER, MARTHA F BOLING AND JAMES R SELF and their several respective descendants. MR. E. A. SELF [Eli Alfred Self], A NEAR RELATIVE, occupied before the Nation precisely the position I now do, and was justly, as we believe, recognized as a Citizen and accorded all the rights and privileges thereto belonging. It does not appear that my cause require at your hands an act of adoption since it is well known that my mother came to this country, and as already stated, lived with the people in this her own Nation for about the period of nine years before moving to the States. Having once been a full Citizen, and so recognized, her subsequent domicile in a neighboring state could not operate to vitiate the rights and privileges she originally possessed.--- I beg however that you take such early steps as will promise a speedy investigation of my claim, and secure to me and my descendants the right and privileges I believe to be justly due us, and for this I will ever pray. Your Obedient Servant J. B. Self, Ser. NOTE: The above Elizabeth Berryhill marked through went into the records as ELIZABETH, but, some say that her name was Elizabeth while others say it was Martha. TNC. This letter from John B. Self is in rebuttal of a decision that the National Council of the Creek Nation had made, to give John B. Self and his brother, William "Buck" Self, "Citizenship by Adoption", instead of "Citizenship by Blood" into the Creek Nation. James Henry Lynch, who was secretary to the Creek Nation, stood as surety for John B. Self, in his court case for his Creek Nation Citizenship. James Lynch later married John B. Self's niece, Martha Jane "Dolly" (Self) Scott, the daughter of Buck Self. Okmulgee I.T. Sept. 4, 1896 To the Citizenship Commission of M.N. Gentlemen: The undersigned your petitioners this day make application for myself and children - for readmission to citizenship in the Muscogee Nation and respectfully makes the following statement of the grounds upon which I base my claim to citizenship. I am a Creek by both blood and by birth. I was born in the Old Creek Nation in 1826 ad came to this Nation in 1828 with a party of emigrants known as the McINTOSH PARTY. I base my claim to Indian blood on my mother's side, HER MOTHER HAVING BEEN A FULL BLOOD CREEK AND A MEMBER OF THE BROKEN ARROW TOWN. I made application for Citizenship with MY BROTHER W. B. SELF through our Attorney Col. D. N. McIntosh in the year 1882. Witness Respectfully Submitted W. B. Self, Ser. John B. Self Samantha E. Newton Mary L. Harwell Martha F. Boling W. B. Self (II) John B. Self, Jr. J. R. Self * * * * * Statement of JOHN B. SELF After being duly sworn. Q. What is your name? JOHN B. SELF. I was born in the Old Creek Nation in 1826 - I was removed to this Territory in 1828. I lived here nine years, a little upwards - I CLAIM MY INDIAN BLOOD FROM MY MOTHER- HER MAIDEN NAME WAS SUSAN BERRYHILL, AND WAS MORE FAMILARLY KNOWN AS "SUKY" - SHE WAS THE DAUGHTER OF JOHN AND ELIZABETH BERRYHILL. I GET THE INDIAN BLOOD FROM MY GRANDMOTHER WHO WAS A FULL BLOODED INDIAN. MY GRANDFATHER WAS A WHITE MAN AND I CLAIM NO INDIAN BLOOD FROM HIM. MY GRANDMOTHER WAS FROM THE INDIAN FAMILY BY THE NAME OF DERISAW, MY FATHER WAS A WHITE MAN, I CLAIM NO INDIAN BLOOD FROM HIM, BUT FROM MY MOTHER. Q. To what town do you belong? To Broken Arrow. Q. How much Indian blood had your mother? She was a half breed, her mother was a full blood and her father was a white man. Q. WHAT WAS YOUR GRANDMOTHER'S NAME? HER MAIDEN NAME WAS ELIZABETH DERRISAW. Q. You say you were once a citizen of the Nation for what cause are you not now considered a citizen? Because my father moved away and carried me with him from the Nation, when I was a child. Q. How many children are included in your application? Six. SAMANTHA NEWTON, MARY HARWELL, MARTHA BOLING, W B SELF, J B SELF, JR., AND J R SELF. Q. Did you make application before the dist. Court or the Council? I made application before the dist. Court in 1887 and after ward to the Council, in 1891 I think, and a second time to the Council in 1892. Q. WHICH JOHN BERRYHILL WAS YOUR GRANDFATHER? THE JOHN BERRYHILL WHO WAS THE FATHER OF JOHN, ALEX, PLEASANT BERRYHILL AND OTHERS, but these are the only ones of them who emigrated to this country. Q. To what town did the DERISAW belong? I dont know to what they belonged. Q. You don't know from what race of people the Derisaws came? I dont know, I cant go back that far. I WAS TAUGHT THAT MY GRANDMOTHER WAS A DERISAW BUT I CANT GO INTO THE GENEALOGY OF THE DERISAW FAMILY. W B SELF, being duly sworn testifies as follows: Q. What is your name? WM B SELF. He was born in the Old Creek Nation. I think it was in 1826 and emigrated here in 1828- his mother was a Creek by blood, I mean a Creek Indian - HIS MOTHER WAS DESCENDED FROM THE DERISAW FAMILY - THE DERISAW FAMILY WERE CREEK INDIANS BY BLOOD, HER MOTHER WAS A FULL BLOODED CREEK INDIAN. Q. What relation are you and John B. Self? WE ARE BROTHERS -one father and one mother. Q. So you have the same amount of indian blood? Yes just exactly. Q. To what town did the DERISAWS belong. They belonged to BROKEN ARROW. Q. WERE YOU ACQUAINTED WITH THE DERISAWS? I NEVER SAW THE OLD MAN HIMSELF BUT I SAW HIS SONS THEY WERE FULL BLOODS. Since you have never saw DERISAW you dont know whether he was a full blood? He was recognized as a full blood and so was the whole family. Q. Do you know John B. Self's children? I know them but cant call all their names, he has one named SAMANTHA, MARY, JOHN, WM, AND RILY. Q. Who was John Self's father? He was my father also. BAXTER SELF. Q. What was his Mother's? SUSAN. Q. Was she descended from the DERISAW? Yes. How many families of the DERISAWS were there? I don't remember but two besides the old man. SUSAN WAS A BERRYHILL BEFORE SHE MARRIED AND HER MOTHER WAS A DERISAW AND MARRIED A BERRYHILL. Q. How many children had this DERISAW? I dont know. Q. Then you could not testify in behalf of any other family who may claim to be descended from the DERISAW family? No. Q. Are there any other children of your family? WE HAVE ONE SISTER LIVING, NO OTHER BROTHERS. Q. Did J B Self ever make application for Citizenship before? Yes he and I together presented an application before the Council - we had put in an application once before but when we came back it had been lost and we had to make another application. Q. In what year did you first make application to the Council? Either '91 or '92 I don't remember exactly. Q. IN WHAT YEAR DID APPLICANT LEAVE THIS COUNTRY FOR TEXAS? IN DEC 1837 OR '38 AM NOT POSITIVE. I KNOW WE GOT TO TEXAS IN 1838. Q. How much Indian blood has aplicant? He is a quarter and his mother was a half blood and his father a white man which would make 1/4. Q. Are there any of the DERISAWS still living in the Nation? I've been told that there are two living but I dont know where. Q. Did applicant ever see a DERISAW? I dont think he ever did. TOBE BERRYHILL, being duly sworn testifies as follows: I dont know much about these people but I know there were two brothers and two sisters of that family. these four children are my fathers sisters children. I have seen one of these children - a girl. I was well acquainted with the mother of these children - THE NAMES OF THESE CHILDREN ARE BUCK SELF, JOHN SELF, ELIZABETH SELF AND LUCINDA SELF - AND THE NAME OF THE MOTHER WAS SUSAN, NIC NAMED SUKEY. These people emigrated to this nation with the McIntosh Party - they came and remained here quite awhile and while they were living here ONE CHILD WAS BORN WHOSE NAME WAS ELIZABETH and they moved from here to Louisiana and while they were living there their mother with this little girl whom I said was born here came back and stopped at my fathers house and drew their money and went back and the mother died. My father always named these children whom I never saw and talked a great deal about them. Q. How old are you? I was 47 at day break last August the first. Q. YOU KNOW THE APPLICANTS TO BE YOUR COUSINS? I KNEW BUCK AND JOHN SELF FROM DESCRIPTIONS GIVEN ME OF THEM BY MY FATHER WHO TALKED A GREAT DEAL ABOUT THEM. Q. Do they get the indian blood from their mother or their father? They get it from their mother - their father was a white man. Q. What was the name of his grandmother? I dont remember. OUR GRANDMOTHER WAS OF BROKEN ARROW TOWN - OUR GRANDMOTHER WAS A NIECE OF JOHN AND JACOB DERISAW AND THEY NEAR RELATIVES TO THE MINGOS. Q. Which one of the Berryhills was your father? BLEASANT BERRYHILL WAS MY FATHER. Q. How many Selfs are these who belong to this Self family? There are three of the children mentioned who are living. I dont know any of their offspring. Q. Then you dont know any of John B Selfs children? No. Q. Are you acquainted with the Derisaw in the Nation? Only the younger members of the family - I think the older members are all dead. MARTIN SMITH, being duly sworn testifies as follows: Q. Do you know John B Self? - Do you know W B Self? No. Did you ever know any Selfs in the Creek Nation? Since I first come here I never knew any Selfs. Q. Did you know BLEASANT BERRYHILL or WHISKEY HARJO? Yes, I was well acquainted with him. Q. Did he have any brothers or sisters? He had two brothers, no sisters. Q. What were their names? ALEX AND JOHN BERRYHILL. Q. What town did John Berryhill belong to? He was a Broken Arrow. Q. Were there not a SAM BERRYHILL? Yes HE WAS A SON OF ALEX BERRYHILL. ANDY AND JIM - THEY WENT TO CALIFORNIA AND NEVER CAME BACK. Q. With what party of emigrants did you come to this country? I came with the larger party. The McIntosh Party were called the first comers or HOMO YIC VEKE. I come after the McIntosh Party did with HOPOETH YARLOLAR in 1836. John B. and Elizabeth (Welch) Self were still living in Seymour, Baylor County, Texas, in the year of 1900. Two of the children of their deceased daughter, Sonora (Self) Chesler, were living with them. In late 1902, John and Elizabeth moved to the Creek Nation and settled in Mounds, Indian Territory, close to their children who had moved there before 1900. John B. Self died in Mounds, Indian Territory, 14 February 1905. He is buried in the Twin Mounds Cemetery at Glenpool, Oklahoma. Elizabeth (Welch) Self died in Mounds, Oklahoma, 25 January 1915. She is buried next to her husband, John, in the Twin Mounds Cemetery. Following are the copies of the Old Creek Card of John B. Self, with two of his sons; and the Creek Census Card of John B. Self: Family No. 470 (Doubtful) Muskogee District. Card No. 3080 Head of Family Mem of Family Relation age sex bld P.O. Self, Jno B 71 M 1/4 Seymour Texas Jno B, Jr. son 30 M 1/8 Seymour Texas James R son 22 M 1/8 Seymour Texas Refer to the papers in the Case of W B Self & others filed with the Dawes Commission by Jno B Lieber - Sept 20th 1897 - for enrollment of Self children & grand children- Jno B Self Sr. claims to be on the Broken Arrow Town - also his children, & his application was only for his grandchildren. Jno B Self said to have been admitted by Council in Sept 1896 NOTE: I have never been able to locate John B. Self's application for his grandchildren. TNC. Dawes Name age sex DIB Father Mother No. Creek Card No. 3757 P.O. Mounds 11 Feb 1903 9777 Self, John B. 76 M 1/4 Baxter Self Susan No. 1 transfered from Creek Census Card No. 1843 & 3038 No. 1 admitted by Colbert Citizenship Commission Sept 17 1896 No. 1 resided in Texas until Oct. 2, 1902 when he removed to the Creek Nation and in good faith took up his residence in said Nation where he is now residing. See Testimony attached to L.O. [Land Office] Oct 31, 1908.